265 Thermostat bolts

Discussion in 'Mechanical - Engine, Gearbox, Exhaust etc' started by secondborn, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. So l did a stupid thing and lost the bottom thermostat cover bolt somewhere in the engine bay while changing my thermostat. After 4 hours of searching I gave up looking for it - wherever it went, it’s well hidden and stuck, and I don’t want to bother disassembling everything in there to find it. The car didn’t explode after I started it with the thermostat held down only with the other two bolts, and doesn’t even leak after having run it on and off for a combined couple of hours, so at least there’s that.

    I ordered a new bolt from RPD - they gave me part number 7703002838, which matches the part number I see on catcar.info for Megane III DZ21 (which is the code I get based on my VIN). The problem is that this new bolt that I got is M6, while the ones that are currently on there are M5, but no part list that I can find lists any M5 bolts anywhere around the thermostat, which confuses me to no end.

    Interestingly, if I try and google the part number, I can find a single image on some Russian website that shows a bolt exactly like the one that I lost (you can tell by the little bit of thread-less body at the end of the bolt which the bolt I lost has, whereas the one I bought doesn’t). Here’s what the bolt I lost looks like:

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    It matches the photo and part number seen here - https://euroauto.ru/part/used/51153385/

    While this is the one that I received:

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    You can see that the part number on the bag is the same one, so it’s not as if I was sent the wrong thing (and I ordered two, and both are the same, so it’s also not a case of a wrong bolt being bagged at the factory). Furthermore, all parts lists that I can find clearly indicate that the bolts in that location are M6. At the same time, most references to people replacing their thermostats on this forum suggest people using 8mm spanners, which tells me that I’m not the only one who has M5 bolts there.

    While it shouldn’t be a problem for me to just get a non-branded flanged M5 20mm bolt to replace the one I lost, and I don’t think it would cause any problems, I’m just mostly curious how it’s possible for all parts lists to show a different size bolt to what a lot of people seem to have.

    Has anyone ever had to replace those, and run into the same issue? If so, did you manage to figure out the discrepancy?
     
  2. Have you talked to the RPD about that? that's really weird :openmouth::openmouth:
    you can see with other Vin if it's the same reference!!
     
  3. Yeah, sent them an email today, but haven’t heard back yet. Will post here if they have answer, and if no one else comes along with any more knowledge.
     
  4. So the solution to this conundrum was simpler than I imagined I had the chance to get another go at that lost bolt, and thought “how about I trust Renault and try actually using that bolt that I got - if it doesn’t fit, then it doesn’t, and I’ll use the random M5 bolts I got elsewhere”. Lo and behold, the M6 Renault bolt actually worked. I originally didn’t measure the actual thread diameter of the bolt that I lost, and just assumed it was an M5 because of the 8mm head diameter, but I now took one of the remaining ones out, and it was indeed 6mm thread diameter, but with an 8mm head, while the new ones I got are the more usual 6mm thread width with a 10mm head.

    No clue why Renault would have used such a weirdly non-standard bolt originally, but there we are. In case anyone runs into this in the future, and finds this thread, rest assured that the standard M6 bolts that you will get from Renault will indeed fit the thermostat cover.
     
  5. Only Renault being Renault :tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy:
     
  6. matt e

    matt e South East RSM Area Rep

    same with the throttle body bolts on a mk2 the head is smaler than the normal 10mm on the M6 bolt
     

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