R26/R26R Suspension question

Discussion in 'Megane Discussion' started by dmn1989, Feb 1, 2014.

  1. I've just bought Cooksport springs, and i was considering changing the shock absorbers at the same time.

    What are the main differences between the R26 shocks and the R26R shocks?

    Would the R26R shocks fit the R26? I'm guessing they would.
     
  2. Yes they'll fit, hardly any difference dont waste ya money mate , 4 R26 shocks £200, 4 R26.R shocks £800, not worth it mate
     
  3. I was considering it. If there's not a major difference then i'll probably just replace my current ones like for like.

    My cars only done 32k, do you think i would benefit from changing the shocks?
     
  4. Can't see them being fooooked at that mileage just depends what life the car has had, just check them while their off the car
     
  5. I'd have to disagree there mate. It's a world of difference. I lost 8 teeth driving my r26 :wink:
     
  6. Shocks and springs together rob maybe, shocks on their own I don't think you would tell the difference mate
     
  7. I'll let you know if ever my shocks go, I won't be paying £800 for a set mate
     
  8. Perhaps go for AST's. Some people on here used to think they were the the dogs b*llocks :wink:
     
  9. They are rob, but after driving martins round the welsh back roads I preferred it mate , ASTs are wasted on my tallent mate
     
  10. I thought the R26.R dampers were softer. As the R is lighter the suspension doesn't have the weight to control so therefore would be softer. I think I read this in EVO. I could be wrong and would like to be put straight if I am.
     
  11. Found this old post from Poobah on the other site which shows most springs rates available.
    from comments on the thread it appears the spring rates are very similar, but damper rates are completely different.


    R26R
    Front - 14 mm/100 kg (Progressive)
    Rear - 16.2 mm/100 kg (Linear??)

    7.14kg/mm or 399.8 Ib/in or 70 N/mm
    6.17kg/mm or 345.5 Ib/in or 60.5 N/mm

    R26
    Front - 13.4mm/100 Kg (Progressive)
    Rear - 15.1 mm/100 Kg (Progressive)

    7.46kg/mm or 417.7 lb/in or 73.2 N/mm
    6.62kg/mm or 370.7 lb/in or 64.9 N/mm

    Eibach Pro-Kit
    Front - 37N/mm or 211.2 lb/in (Linear)
    Rear - 30N/mm or 171.3 lb/in (Linear)

    H&R Mono-Tubes
    Front - 60N/mm or 342.6 N/mm (Progressive)
    Rear - 43N/mm or 245.5 N/mm (Linear)

    H&R Spring Kit
    Front - 45 N/mm (Progressive)
    Rear - 30 N/mm (Linear)

    Gaz Gold
    Front – 425 lb/in or 74.4 N/mm (Progressive) - Requires confirmation
    Rear – 425 lb/in or 74.4 N/mm (Linear)

    Prima Springs
    Front - 37N/mm
    Rear - 30N/mm

    Cobra 20mm
    Front - 28N/mm
    Rear - 30N/mm

    Cobra 40mm
    Front - 26N/mm
    Rear - 28N/mm

    AST Sportline 2 (standard supplied rates)
    Front - 450 lb/in or 78.8N/mm
    Rear - 450 lb/in or 78.8N/mm
     
  12. So R. Dampers are softer.
     
  13. Yep their softer because the car is lighter, it's actually softer over bumps than an R26
     
  14. I've seen this number on a lot of pages, but I believe they are wrong. I will discuss only the front spring number, but the same question goes to all of the numbers. And I speak only about the springs where you install with the stock shock.

    From the numbers the R26 springs are 7.46kg/mm and the Eibach springs are 3.76kg/mm.

    If one side of the Megane has like 250kg (just an example not to far of reality) means that:
    R26 springs compress 33.5mm
    Eibach springs compress 66.4mm

    Considering that Eibach says they will drop the car like 30mm, means that the R26 and Eibach springs should have the same length when free, which we all know is not right: http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7567/img2011121000197.jpg (picture from Nickson's Eibach install)

    Also, if you start to make the car heavier (dynamic loading, static loading doesn't matter) the Eibach will compress twice as much as the R26 which means the wheels will touch the fender much sooner than the R26 (which is not right as well).

    This being said, I'm sure the numbers aren't good. I just wanted to make people a little aware of this and not really use them to compare things around.

    S.
     

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