Please, pretty please help! Megane 225 clutch install nightmare!

Discussion in 'Mechanical - Engine, Gearbox, Exhaust etc' started by Lee Robertson, Mar 3, 2019.

  1. Maybe totally wong here, but i thought you needed a smf conversion to fit the 1.9 clutch? Sure i remember something like that when we did mine.
     
  2. 1.9 clutch, according to the site i was pointed to on here for reference is the same part number as the 225(few other site, stockists say this too, the slave cylinder you get in the Luk kit, interestingly enough 'looks' like it will fit, but the external bore of the hose that fits onto the bleeder block is fractionally larger(and internal bore is smaller) , it does click into place into the bleeder block, but it has a death grip on it and doesn't seperate easily!
     
  3. There's probably a few people on here thinking why is this pillock farting about with a 1.9 clutch kit?
    Well couple of reasons, number one is the majority of clutches i seen for a 225 looked like this below, 'completely' different from my original one!
    Plus i read somewhere 1.9 one was stronger, or better, one of the two. In fact the site i mentioned above i was pointed to on here, mentions the 1.9 clutch as an 'updated' part number for a 225 one? Here's the 225 clutch link that's different from mine(no visible springs on pressure plate!)
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-Ne...utch-Kit-CSC/372636230770?hash=item56c2d9a472
     
  4. Two different types of clutch advertised, you can see both pressure plates are different, people on here that have fitted one, what did yours look like?
     

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  5. I wanna say the one on the left, ill see if i took a pic
     
  6. Here is a pic of old original clutch plate beside new one i fitted(excuse rust, sat outside for a night) , if you can see a difference, you're a better man than me!
     

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  7. Yeah they defo look the same, all i know is the r26r clutch cant be used on the 225 flywheel, not sure if thats the clutch you have or not, but the flywheels are different.
     
  8. Aslong as it matches the flywheel i cant see what can be wrong
     
  9. Here is original flywheel that came off, and i can assure you one that is on just now is identical!
     

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  10. tof73

    tof73 RSM Club Member

    Lee,

    When i fitted mine which surprisingly look very similar to yours, probable a different part number,

    anyway on mine new one the 3 little green springs were completely compressed then when you use your clutch it self adjust to the correct position.
    On yours they seems totally unset.
     
  11. I know about that, don't worry! that one isn't really the one that's presently on the car, it's actually an identical one that was on the car when i was given the wrong flywheel! :-)
    I don't have a pic of the actual one on the car as i was so keen to put it on! But i can assure you, it's the same part number as the one on the car, which was preset from Luk!
    I just bought another new clutch incase one in pic got damaged during being attached to the wrong flywheel!(you're correct, springs on that one are completely released,happened when working with wrong flywheel!)
    So everything presently on car is correct, and set correctly.
    I've never heard what you said there before, that you put on preset clutch, then first time it's actuated the springs release slightly, i thought they were preset off thecar, fitted, then the clutch is just gradually adjusted over it's life during friction plate wear.
     
  12. So, as i think someone maybe mentioned here, is the 1.9dci flywheel is different.
    But the 2 clutch kits, for the 1.9 and rs225 are identical part numbers.
    So basically i have an rs225 flywheel and a correct clutch kit!
    So either the two clutch kits, although identical, maybe have different working pressures internally? , or the 1.9 clutch needs the 1.9 flywheel to work properly, which is odd as both clutch kits are the same by sight, and part numbers
    The list of things that can go wrong down at the clutch side of things gets relatively short! And i've ruled two of them out already, it's the correct clutch and there's not an input shaft problem.
    Only thing that's left is a manufacturing fault with the friction disc thickness, or i've cranked the pressure plates up to an ungodly amount unevenly and warped the pressure plate, which i haven't! To rub salt into my wounds the guy who offered 800 quid for it didn't have the decency to turn up.
     
  13. Im breaking the car if anyone's interested, since nobody's even interested at 800 then breaking it's my only option.
     
  14. tof73

    tof73 RSM Club Member

    Shame that is, a nice cheap car to get. people might think there is more to it than just a clutch, thats probably why,

    Why don't you have a very last go at taking that gearbox out, do get defeated by it. it might take you a whole week end but you might end up again with a big grin when you can drive it again. breaks my heart every time a good car gets sold as parts .:disappointed:
     
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  15. Breaks my heart too! No garages in my area would touch this car originally to put a clutch in it! So i thought what could go wrong, got the whole procedure learned before tackling it and still end up nowhere.
    People on here tell me clutch is at fault, if it was the wrong clutch, or if i put the friction disc on the wrong way, or if i spent half an hour dancing on top of the input shaft with Diane Abbott on my back i would see a reason to go back in there!
    The clutch is new, the flywheel is new, the slave cylinder is new, the master cylinder is new and the clutch pipe!
    I couldn't have made more of an effort!
     
  16. I don’t know what you want people to say. You’re convinced that all the parts are correct and they’ve been fitted properly. If you’re not willing to take the advice because you’re so adamant that it is all correct, there’s not a lot we can help you with.

    There comes a point when you’ve got to face the facts and realise that something is wrong, either the parts, or the way you’ve fitted them. It’s up to you to decide which to eliminate by starting from scratch, but if you aren’t willing to do that, then both yourself and the rest of us are wasting our time trying to help.


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  17. Your selling the car at 800? I’d be interested, not seen it advertised?
     

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