Anyone with genuine experience of Renault OEM pads being used heavily on track? I.e how they cope with high temps and their lifespan when used as such? Need a set of pads but don't know if it's worth upgrading to DS2500s or staying standard. Thanks.
Fluid is first to go, get decent fluid in. Standard pads depend on your driving style but for most are not enough. shot mine day 1 on track, changed fluid and pads never a problem again (old r26) ds2500 will be fine with decent fluid on our discs/calipers id imagine
Ok thanks for clearing that up, no point in skimping out now just to have a track session cut short from fading brakes. I use the DS2500s in my 172 and they've never let me down on track but that's not a 1400kg 300bhp car, anyone with experience with those on track in the 250 or can any other recommendations? They must be road friendly and kind to discs so no DS3000 or Carbon Lorraine's etc.
No idea on longevity but they stand up to abuse pretty well, road tyres go off before the brakes do. But I wouldnt go back to them, CL RC5's I have in now stop so much harder and still work well from cold.
Yes the RC5s are fantastic pads I used to run them in the 172 last year for trips to the ring and they worked perfectly on the way there and even better around the ring, not as hard on the discs as their reputation would have you believe either. However the mess/dust they leave on the wheels is just beyond a joke.
I'm sure standard pads will be fine, just go out for 20 minute sessions and come back in and let them cool.
i done cadwell 3 times on std pads disc`s i did between 6-8 laps and came in for half hour car started to sink and brakes started to fade a bit, hope it helps jon.
I burnt out a set of standard pads at Oulton. When they got hot, they didn't work. I was only doing 3-4 laps then coming in. I also warped a set of standard front disks too. I'm now in the process of changing to Brembo HC's with DS2500's
It all depends on the track. Somewhere like oulton or donington will destroy the standard fluid and probably pads. Cadwell or blyton park would im sure be fine for the std brakes including fluid as long as you keep to 20 min sessions. Surw I did 4 or 5 days at blyton and cadwell with std discs pads and fluid. Then destroyed a set of ferodo 2500s at oulton in one day! Go for RC5s or something from performance friction if funds allow and you plan on doing a few days.
Well fluids not a problem area, when I fit my braided lines I'll use some quality fluid from the likes if motul or something. Not really interested in CLs as the dust is too much for what will mainly be a road car with the odd trackday. And no I can't be bothered to keep switching pads around for road and track, major PITA for a busy man like myself!
Go for PFC 08 or some other endurance pads... from my experience do not compare less expensive products with real performance ones like PFC, Endless, etc, I'm almost sure that buying PFC 08 will save you some money in the end... try to keep in mind this quote ''I'm not that rich to buy cheap things.'' (Thomas Baťa) DS2500 work when used on light cars, you'll be fine with them on the road but not on track.. On track they may be used as a rear brake pads bud get some more serious ones in front with a good fluid and you will be fine the whole day with occasional cooling laps.
Not ideal for a car spending 90% of its time on road. As above. Speak to pfc. There very knowledgeable and will direct you to the right pads. Dave
DS1.11's are like £240 a time. Good though, out and out race car spec really. Most would struggle to get heat into them.
this is not the case, they are much like the rc6 but with less abrasive dust from what I've seen of them and quieter on the road too. ds1.1's and rc6's are perfectly useable on the road all year round.
We're going round in circles here lads! I'll post what I'm after in a pad below and someone suggest what will best suit my needs, even if it is a little compromised. Car is used mainly for weekend B road blasts and summer driving with approx. 3 to 4 trackdays a year at Brands, Silverstone, Cadwell and rarely Bedford. Ideally squealing and excessive brake dust are undesirable.
My mate used his 250 with standard pads round knockhill for a good few evening sessions and they were more than up to the job. He now runs DSUNO pads on the front with standard rears. For your needs Ben my opinion would be to change your fluid for some Motul RBF 600 and leave it at that, the standard pads are good enough for the occasional trackday. Knockhill can be hard on the brakes. One big stop from ~ 110/115mph to 40mph and another hard short slow (depending on how confident/daft) your feeling from ~115/120mph to ~65/70mph in normal direction (going up the hill on the main straight) In opposite direction the big stop is even harder (going down the hill on the main straight) with 5th gear sometimes being used so that speed (whatever it is, never really have enough time to look) down to 40mph. Whilst your at it you could always change the lines for some HEL lines.
ds1.1's would be fine for your usage if your after better breaking performance for the 3-4 trackdays. I tend to swap between a set of rc6 for td's and standard for road with no issues
I know a few of the chaps i do track days with use DS2500, they are as fast as anyone, so i would say those pads work fine on track
Exactly what i was trying to say earlier. DS1.11 and UNO's are ott, it's not a touring/gt car it's a Megane lol
PFC are a good choice as they offer great cold bite (better than my std pads in fact) and are unreal when hot. just make sure you go for a set with low dust unlike my 07 compound which require the wheels removing and claying after heavy use! ferodo ds2500 seem to have mixed reviews. ive ruined 2 sets in 2 different cars but clearly others run without problems. for the tracks listed id say try your std pads first if they have plenty of life left. fluid and braided lines will be ample im sure unless the car has big power or lots of camber etc. Dave
I have the two day DN day at the 'Ring in July.. Best I change my pads and fluid.. I should be doing around 3 laps in a row followed by a hour break.
3 laps is wuite a bit, Last DN i attended we stayed out for 5/6 laps at a time, Get some proper cooling sorted as there was no issues with doing so.
