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Discussion in 'Track Days & Track Driving' started by Just-that-ek, Jul 29, 2015.

  1. As title says... I'm off to the ring and the F1 gp end of August, it'll be my first time on track so quite daunting already.

    What should I be taking with me as obviously it's abit different to doing a track day here and dumping everything in a garage.

    Thanks
     
  2. -Jamie-

    -Jamie- RSM Moderator

    Don't treat it as a track day, Treat is as a fast B road. Especially as its your first time.

    TBH unless your going out to set laptimes on a trackday then all you really need to worry about is your mirrors and tyre pressures, if you really must.
     
  3. Nice fairly simple then.

    What psi should I be starting off with 30?
     
  4. -Jamie-

    -Jamie- RSM Moderator

    What tyres? Road tyres I would be aiming higher, 35psi or higher hot
     
  5. Running RSR's their on 34/35 atm anyway
     
  6. -Jamie-

    -Jamie- RSM Moderator

    I don't know about the Mk2 but on my MK3 i run 36 and 34 hot but do change them to suit the track/conditions.
     
  7. I'll just start with 34 and see how it goes
     
  8. I did the 'Ring on RS-R's and they were great... I just made sure I had all the usual stuff like oil, jack, hi-vis, warning triangle, breathalysers, bulbs, GB sticker... If you've driven abroad you know the score :smile:
     
  9. Yeah I've got the travel kit, but it was more for stuff like socket set, wrench, trolley jack ect
     
  10. Just take the same stuff you would take on a long journey. You won't need a socket set or trolley jack it's your first track day so you'll just be going for a 'drive'
    Would probably of been a good idea to do a track day before going.
     
  11. TimR26

    TimR26 South Central RSM Area Rep

    I take my Halfords 200 piece tool set, breaker bar, couple of screwdrivers, trolley jack, foot pump, cable ties, duct tape, jubilee clips, and usual spare bulbs etc.
     
  12. if your going via france youll also need a breathalyzer if traveling through france.

    Id take a helmet for each person just in case.
     
  13. -Jamie-

    -Jamie- RSM Moderator

    Breathalysers are not needed now IIRC
     
  14. Bank holiday weekend?

    if so see you there
     
  15. I'll be there from the 19th
     
  16. I wanna get a helmet but the wench doesn't want one as her "ear stud will be sore"
     
  17. I'm just there for a few days. 28th - 31st

    you don't need a helmet to go on there I haven't in the past.
     
  18. Her head will be a lot sorer if you stick it on its roof!
     
  19. Lol true. Although I defiantly won't be going quick enough for that to happen
     
  20. This. Last time we went via the tunnel I went to buy one from the AA shop. They didn't have any in stock but the AA chap said they weren't needed anymore. This was Apr last year.
     
  21. You dont have to be going quick. Somebody else might. I`ve seen the aftermath of a few.
     
  22. I probably will halfrauds have a sale on helmets £30
     
  23. Not trying to freak you out, but it isnt a knitting competition. Some people are very commited & they dont give much margin for error.
     
  24. Hi, Good luck at the Ring. Best advise anyone can give you is TAKE IT EASY especially in the first few miles until you are used to the pace and the tyres and brakes are hot. It's all about having fun NOT about breaking records.
    I always take a socket wrench as I find that wheel nuts can back off a quarter turn after lapping. I have been using 595's and find that 35 front and 36 back works for me. I would say that it's an idea to set your tyres cold at 34 all round and at the end of your first lap come in and check them as the pressures change. The front left will be highest, front right next and the rears about equal. Adjust the them they are hot and check after every lap along with the wheel nuts.

    IF you need any help with tyres (even buying new ones at great prices) contact Roland at TTC the official Kumo race supplier located in the industrial estate near the Ring on +49 2691 935 9502.

    Here's a link to some vid's https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuc1kFu9Zoj9CzcUaRT9H9g of my trips to the Ring to give you an idea of what's coming your way any questions happy to help.
     
  25. dru

    dru

    35+36 working temperature is way too high, optimal pressure is 30, depending on your driving style cold temp needs to be around 26f29r roughly...
     
  26. You would think 26 would be too low to start with if you look at the tyres on the rim, nearly look flat lol
     
  27. TimR26

    TimR26 South Central RSM Area Rep

    I keep the tyres at normal pressure for driving on road. The Ring is like a fast B road so the tyres and brakes aren't worked like on track.
     
  28. They we 40 after 2 laps so dropped it to 30 which felt obviously felt so much better
     
  29. dru

    dru

    Yeah!! Sometimes I forget to fill them back up again after and wonder why the cars steering is all over the place
     
  30. Did exactly this after the oulton RS day lol
     
  31. Interesting...Why start at 26f/29r cold? Recommended pressures are 35psi all around.
    The maximum load is on the front axle immediately with high cornering loads that can damage the side walls and over-heat the tyre due to internal friction in a very short distance? Within the first few miles you have Bridge Straight and compression, Hatzenbach Curvers Complex, then a fast section to FlugPlatz with a high speed approach, over a rise, brake and heavy load double right apex onto a straight that carries +100 m.p.h. After the straight more heavy braking into Aremberg right-hander and down into the Foxhole between 90 / 110 m.p.h all on under-inflated tyres? With low pressures at the bottom of the Foxhole the front right tyre compresses at the base and the rim will crunch into the track....take my word on that!! Maybe that's why so many people go off in that first few miles??


    I take advice and get support from the local Kumo Race and Motor Factory Pool Tyre suppliers and Raeder Motorsport for settings and they recommend a warm up lap starting with manufacturer road pressures and then each lap come in and readjust back to those pressures. Once the tyres have stabilised with the track temperature and driving load they should remain stable for that session. Taking this approach will protect your tyres and provide a better more enjoyable driving experience.........and be SAFER!

    Other tracks other settings...

    Hope this helps.
    Cheers
    . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVyq-Iy-6iI
     
  32. dru

    dru

    Fuck knows what raeder are smoking but 30psi is the optimum working pressure those figures on the door are for road use predominantly for economy....

    The reason I start on 26f29r is because that's the pressures I use when I'm racing they suit my driving style

    You do need to warm up the tyres yeah... You can hear me warming them up in this vid

    Hope this helps

    http://youtu.be/xqgWcTukc3o
     
  33. dru

    dru

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    Manufacturer Says 30f29r for normal driving on my 250 I'm guessing r26 is the same
     
  34. Sure mine is different Dru
     
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  36. Front seems too high to me so I just try and keep them 32F 30R
     
  37. Strange that the 250 is that pressure and my 265 cup says more when it's exactly the same car. They must of revised them.
     
  38. dru

    dru

    That's because the 265 cup came with 225/40/18 not 235/40/18 for some reason
     

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