New RenaultSport Megane

Discussion in 'Megane Discussion' started by Semtax, Dec 14, 2016.

  1. And didn't they keep them outside in the rain to weather them and kept pissing on them as well?
     
  2. And didn't they keep them outside in the rain to weather them and kept pissing on them as well?
     
  3. That does ring a bell, yes.

    They were running rocket fuel through them as well!


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  4. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    It was to de-stress the steel, Rolls Royce did it years ago, it eliminates the chance of warping so they then didn't need gaskets
     
  5. Those sort of percentages will depend though on who wants to declare the remap on the ad or who may have switched it back to stock.

    For sure, new warranty is an issue with remaps/tuning but that is why Ford is so successful with Mountune. Would be interesting to know the percentage of new Ford buyers that are swayed by the Mountune warranty friendly tuning option. Something Renault should have always considered. The demand would have been there. Too late now as they seem to be moving into different a market that the Mk4 Megane may be confirming.
     
  6. Too much traction for me, I drive an MQB S3 occasionally and they're good cars but I like cars to have a balance of traction and power whereas those have a balance slanted to more traction than power if you follow.
     
  7. So if you feel your engine might be stressed ...then piss on it...is that our conclusion?
     
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  8. When I was younger I loved the bike tyres sliding and squirming....now being old I love traction.
     
  9. You're talking an even more tiny percentage there I would wager. It's just not something that's worth worrying about for OEMs. They're generally not interested in the aftermarket as most of their buyers aren't either. The Mountune case is an interesting one and it raises a lot of challenging politics within Ford in my experience of dealing with them. I think if the demand was there to involve aftermarket tuners, more OEMs would be doing it. As it stands, they aren't, so I suspect it isn't worth their trouble.

    Agreed. I had a Golf R before the Megane. They're very impressive cars, but a bit numb I found.
     
  10. Regardless of the Mountune politics or financial bottom line for Ford, the way they have rolled out that capability to the dealer network and overseas is excellent. The one stop shop. It just adds a warranty friendly capability and support for the brand that will be difficult to quantify with just sales. Other manufacturers also do it under their own umbrella, BMW M Performance for example, including power upgrades. They aren't doing it because there is no demand.
     
  11. same with the old 600hp sierra cosworths from the great days of the BTCC.
    Used to clamp the heads down ridiculously tight to try and keep it all together.
    After each race the engine would be scrap!...ah the days of excess!
     
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  12. Do we have any more leaked pics yet?


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  13. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    only if you have been ragging it around a track too much :laughing:

    It's a bit late now as it has probs been de stressed with the heat cycles:dizzy:
     
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  14. So it's a Fiesta ST you have with strap on Mountune bits...........
    Cool, can I suggest http://www.fiestastoc.com/forums/ is a better place for you?
     
  15. -Jamie-

    -Jamie- RSM Moderator

    Why are people getting so caught up about its potential power output?

    Renaultsport have never, ever been about out and out power. If that's your bag then I'd suggest something VAG and some APR tuning tbh.
     
  16. I think some are just desperate to hate it before we even know what it is.
     
  17. Sure, a bit of speculation, but also some decent feedback on what everyone has seen so far.

    I'm hoping they are doing something special. They certainly need it in the showroom.
     
  18. A lot of speculation. In fact, it's basically all speculation from a technical perspective. We don't know anything about the car other than it will have four-wheel steering and a turbocharged engine of some sort. One that looks like a 1.8 but, for all we know, might not be.

    While I agree that the Megane needs to be something special in order to do well in the hot hatch segment (it seems that the whole Megane range could do with a lift from what I have read), Renault are actually doing pretty well in general terms, so I think your "need it in the showroom" comment is perhaps a little over-the-top. The market is all about small SUVs and crossovers right now, which Renault seem to be doing ok with. Their market share is up and their sales have been growing pretty consistently: http://press.renault.co.uk/Corporate/6960fff3-6abf-408a-a0a7-c67e352fe456.aspx

    Let's not let the facts get in the way of a good story though.
     
  19. 4 wheel steering seems a bit much. Expensive when it goes wrong. Probably resale value might suffer
     
  20. Will be fun when it gets stuck in one direction :smiley:
     
  21. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    I have had a car with 4 wheel steering and once you got used to it it was great fun in corners, you could drive around the inside or outside of other cars that thought they were on the edge.
     
  22. What are the chances of Renault getting it right first time I wonder
     
  23. The Renault-Nissan alliance is doing well, but if you're in the market for a new hot hatch and specifically a new Megane RS, I'm sure all the SUVs and other Renault products in showroom are pretty irrelevant. Renault currently only have the Auto RS Clio to buff up and flog.

    What is more interesting, if Renault is on a roll with sales and profits why chop the Clio RS16, why no decent limited run sub-RS16 'R' version Clio? The Mk4 RS Megane will hopefully prove Renault is still committed to Renaultsport and a Grand Fromage in the management hasn't decided to go more Alpine, run down the core Renaultsport brand in favour of those SUVs you mentioned. Sept here we come....
     
  24. Mixed reviews on the Megane GT so they have some tweaking to do.
     
  25. I've had the GT for a few months now and still not sure. I originally had the 275 Trophy and decided to look at the new RS. So sold the 275 and got the GT so I could really try out the EDC gearbox to see if it was the way to go on the RS. After approx. 7,000 miles I'm still undecided. The positives are the four wheel steer, which once you have got use to it is superb. Great improvement in the interior equipment and quality and the Bose system is a vast improvement, but and it's a big but, the gearbox is just not cutting it when is RS mode it is way to easy to confuse it, this may be sorted in the RS but at the moment it's still manual for me. I will be doing a couple of track days in the GT which should finally make my mind up over the gearbox and then I need to decide if the RS is the way to go at all.
     
  26. Four wheel steering has been out years.
     
  27. Are you?
     
  28. Honda used to fit it to the premium Prelude models, but did drop it eventually.

    I wonder why?
     
  29. Renault used it on the laguna coupe, just stating its not the first time to get it right first time, as someone put it. Everyone going on like the clio 4 rs is crap, everyone ive know who had one, some die hard f4r fans love it. The only people that seem to slate it are either not in the market for one, or cant afford one.
     
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  30. -Jamie-

    -Jamie- RSM Moderator

    Jap stuff from the 80s and 90s had rwd steer as well. Not to mention the fact that Porsche have stuck it in the latest generation of GT3. It's good, more stability at high speeds and more maneuverability at slower speeds. What's not to like about that.
     
  31. 4 WS extra weight, complexity and a possible lack of handling purity and consistency are the downsides. Some extra car parking low speed manoeuvrability probably isn't going to be a great draw, but there's the higher speed road and track pace if Renault have got the development right.
     
  32. porsche tried to remove the 4ws from the latest GT3 as it is heavy at 40kg.
    but then immediately put it back on ,when they realized it make a big enough difference in handling, to warrant the added weight penalty.

    If porsche see it as a must have for there lightweight flagship 911,then Renault must be very serious about ultimate handling, if they are going to spend millions on a 4ws system.
     
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  33. 4WS could be the cars USP. Be interesting to see how it goes.
     
  34. I personally hope the new megane RS is a success and if it has 4ws which works and is reliable then all the better. Never driven a car with 4ws so dont know what i am missing. Not done a trackday for 2 weeks now so getting withdrawl symptoms....roll on next Friday.. ..hopefully there will be some later Megane's there to nose at.

    I will pop down the Renault garage when they are out to see if I can get a test drive. Hopefully they won't insist on driving it first then stopping in a layby somewhere where it's quite.....that really does annoy me.
     
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  35. How does 4ws give more stability at high speeds....do you mean more stability on high speed cornering?
     
  36. -Jamie-

    -Jamie- RSM Moderator

    Yes, steers in the opposite direction effectively lengthening the wheelbase
     
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  37. seen a few GT`s on the road now..i still cant get over how ridiculous those bloody front lights look.
    i also had a look over a higher spec new civic yesterday..and thats butt ugly to,with huge areas of cheap plastic all over it.

    does make you wonder who is getting paid hundreds of thousands to style these cars.

    just hire the guy who styles alfa romeo..they are almost all stunning to look at.
    remember when the 156 came out with its hidden rear doors..genius.
    If only the new megane looked like this..side skirts very mk3 megane.
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  38. Saw this yesterday....looked very nice
     

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  39. looks absolutely stunning..they say its very good to.
    wonder if it will stay in one piece though 5 years down the line.
    always alfa Achilles heel.

    a customer has a modern alfa..still needed its cam belt done after 2 years on the service shedule!
     
  40. I must admit it looked perfect from every angle. Mega styling but with you on the reliability
     

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