My wannabe RS but proud to be 1.9 dci 3dr sport package

Discussion in 'Megane Projects' started by MilosB, Apr 5, 2017.

  1. A start of a new "project"

    36017868766_c3fa212c0d_o.jpg IMG_20170305_150102_zpszaskgw6e by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    you wonder what happend...
    1st - I drive a turbo car, that has the most sensitive turbocharger probably there is. :smiley: and the fact once I drowe 600km with broken intake pipe from IC to intake ) didn't notice it as I wasn't pushing the car on the highway and I drowe on cruise control

    I think you know what happened. my turbo gave up at 200km/h
    36017913576_b5724fecca_o.jpg 20170310_172646_zpspnqy6mgd by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr


    the shaft broke to 3 peices, puncturing the intake pipe from the airbox.
    god thing that at same time the exhaust part got out and blocked most of the exhaust flow.
    36059198735_2fe12134b6_o.jpg 20170310_173608_zpscrzhjgvf by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36017911036_2f347cab7d_o.jpg 20170311_120930_zpsnrkoctte by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
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    aprox 1/3rd of oil from the IC
    36059194975_4f75f45533_o.jpg 20170311_123953_zpsjvj4ged2 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    I suppose there was 1 to 2 L of oil in IC.

    there is just enough oil in the engine to touch the oil stick.
     
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  2. So I decided I wont mount that turbocharger again.
    36017907876_48ca3786dc_o.jpg 20170312_135808_zpsubydhzq2 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36059194085_44fdb7d729_o.jpg 20170312_135818_zpsnhuhs5zk by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36017907226_3021278d06_o.jpg 20170312_135824_zpspedlfquj by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr


    the VNT mechanism has been rusted, the turbocharger wasnt on a car for few years, so I cleaned that and now it looks like this
    35888347312_106175e0e6_o.jpg 20170313_183605_zpscxpbfgnf by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    vnt mechanism.
    [ 36017906106_1bdef3140f_o.jpg 20170313_183626_zpsr1kwskzi by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    Open position, low boost
    35888346372_4a4c4260d7_o.jpg 20170313_190800_zpsqghhz274 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    Cloased position - max boost
    35888344982_6f89aca89c_o.jpg 20170315_164736_zpsekrg957u by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr




    intake
    35888346822_6f939fdbc5_o.jpg 20170313_184409_zpsxuwqng5n by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36017905266_4745b467f8_o.jpg 20170313_184414_zps3ezpqctz by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    Go BIG or go home :smiley:
    stock one is GT1749V (1st gen.)
    this one is GTB2260VK (3rd gen.) plus the size difrence. (top one stock, bottom one new one)
    36017869256_0e1aabdc11_o.gif FILE001_zpsybvkhsir by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    exhaust housing diference
    36059191335_8b2bfeaee7_o.jpg 20170314_162237_zps5jehxaal by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    35888345662_44c86a7858_o.jpg 20170314_162345_zpsnup6vcon by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
     
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  3. made an adopter plate to check if everything will fit
    36059189425_298557c953_o.jpg 20170317_190952_zpsz0jda4g0 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36017901796_8ef6738153_o.jpg 20170317_191013_zpsodryuwe7 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36017901356_aa2f438790_o.jpg 20170318_110532_zpsrqrryf3j by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36017900676_6001196c71_o.jpg 20170318_110537_zps4uxh7egw by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36017900186_64dcf4f4f7_o.jpg 20170318_110541_zpsj5ey1kol by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    35669768560_052d7f4e6b_o.jpg 20170318_110545_zpszniue0wz by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr


    ill need to reroute the cabin heating pipe
    35669767650_f27bd70828_o.jpg 20170318_110626_zpsfc4goiwq by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    vacuum VNT actuator fitted, (stock one is electronic)
    35669765910_4c235f3668_o.jpg 20170318_194248_zps2m06o1op by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    35219414654_6901438efd_o.jpg 20170318_194303_zpsu7bph2yo by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    rechecked if it will clear the starter motor, etc.
    35219414384_cd1ca13dd9_o.jpg 20170324_152803_zps6z3ukpuo by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    35669764700_230e39a6a3_o.jpg 20170324_152819_zpsc2hhc9y9 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
     
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  4. no more eco man from me :smiley:
    talk about EGR delete :smiley:
    Intake side:
    35219399214_31a5b371b3_o.jpg received_10212350964668134_zpsdzybfgtx by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    35250556803_a4578b5144_o.jpg received_10212350964628133_zpsrmfkqvvy by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36017868026_735f3007de_o.jpg received_10212350964708135_zps4owgjepe by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    35250556943_d12648943d_o.jpg received_10210642218984934_zps6eujnqe1 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    exhaust side:
    35669764260_dd243b72ba_o.jpg 20170325_114944_zpsiabzqskr by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    35219412784_682fdccc6c_o.jpg 20170401_105510_zps8cc78blq by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    the original complete part looked like this:
    35889191832_d10de25c32_o.jpg received_10209350792385702_zpsqnxvdwwg by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
     
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  5. bought some steel angle pipes (bigger ones are OD 76mm ID 70mm),smaller ones are for my friend.
    35669763820_1f83a0bfe4_o.jpg 20170330_131706_zpsv9pmnbz7 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    Wellded
    35925966051_625c51b1e7_o.jpg 20170401_194928_zpsg7oqskge by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    Full penetration:
    35925965741_2903cb57cf_o.jpg 20170401_195228_zps9fss3nf2 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    that's now on halt until my adapter plate, and downpipe flanges arrive so I can cut the pipe to size and weld on the last angle.
     
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  6. got these from my friend. one pipe is for the turbo - IC pipe part I missed that was just short, now I have enough piping to replace the pipe from IC to the intake manifold, also got a huge oil cooler-
    35925964581_4518c046bb_o.jpg 20170403_154649_zpsqcv00v3b by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    ordered this boost gauge, as I dont want to have one more failed turbo because I didn't notice something was wrong. and I don't want to run my torque pro all the time
    35250556543_2c359d8f2e_o.png received_10212435605424100_zpstm20ryau by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    I will mount it like this fella
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    relocated my engine breather pipe connection,
    35925965181_1ae4b8c71e_o.jpg 20170402_155015_zpsmv0xbb4k by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    35925964831_63e3928209_o.jpg 20170402_155029_zpsdhmh2l1w by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr


    So I can make room for bigger intake pipe as the stock turbo feed pipe is 40mm ID, and the turbo needs an 55mm pipe:
    here you can see the new intake pipe and the new relocated cabin heater pipe.
    35219411164_8b0a336b5e_o.jpg 20170401_141539_zpszbbscsn3 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    35925969431_4de43b81c5_o.jpg 20170401_144110_zps3q9mcdxf by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr


    the old turbo oil feed line fits, the oil return does not fit so well so I cut it in half and used the beginning and the end and the rest will be replaced with a silicone hose.
     
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  7. Gavin.

    Gavin. RSM Admin

    Awesome effort! Looking forward to seeing more.
     
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  8. Im waiting my cnc machinist for adapter plate and 2 flanges for diwnpipe :smile: they should arrive in a week or so.

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  9. made an silicon-alu pipe from the IC to the intake manifold, which was plastic OEM. I only have to flare the pipe to ensure the silicone pipe wont slip off

    35250561443_5d88d5756e_o.jpg 20170408_133510_zpsraby6pya by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    35219405524_ed45e5453a_o.jpg 20170408_133514_zpsaqulmzx9 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
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  10. some goodies arrived :smiley:
    36018129796_924d091ffe_o.jpg 20170409_085325_zpssihud7xz by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    35219624664_a9551f70ba_o.jpg 20170409_085328_zpswieffviw by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    RS250 DMF/Clutch plate/Pressure plate :smiley:
     
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  11. the most important parts after the turbo have arrived :smile:
    ie the ex.manifold to turbo adapter plate, and downpipe flanges :smiley:
    designed/received:
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    36017914566_017055e876_o.jpg IMG_20170413_100301_zpsprtqzumi by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    35250556873_b5af00fe67_o.jpg received_10212340544527637_zpsiewa6ugq by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36017915546_b866611052_o.jpg IMG_20170413_100221_zpskd9a3jv7 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    35219399324_ee67b6c7f9_o.jpg received_10212340549807769_zps7bbwzwv4 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    here we changed a design in the mean time a bit, for smaller screw heads etc
    35888351192_cae485a161_o.jpg IMG_20170413_100251_zpsyeie0j0k by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
     
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  12. almost done :smiley:
    me and my wife started at 3pm and finished at 9pm when the car started
    gosh, how much smoke came out of the car, it was unbelievable.

    but lets start from the beginning. from the part which took most of my time.
    I put the welded part of the downpipe and the turbo flange, and hey, there was a nasty surprise. downpipe is 10cm beneath the exhaust, and that is the minimal distance that could be achieved because of the downpipe had to clear the turbo.
    36017873526_4942e3e615_o.jpg 20170414_164654_zpsdttaom8v by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    figured out the solution.
    36017872216_87cb5b55e5_o.jpg 20170414_171243_zpsf15ywtb6 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36017870576_306fe5d86d_o.jpg 20170414_180323_zpswlzbvx6x by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    only part left to do is to see why is there an oil leak on the oil supply line to the turbo.

    and to bee clear, this is my workshop :worried:
    35669754530_faa597eede_o.jpg received_10212878328699192_zpssakth633 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    35250559553_8ed8691476_o.jpg 20170414_161505_zpsbqinbpgz by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
     
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  13. she's alive
     
  14. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    well done, you know this is the start of a slippery slope :laughing:
     
  15. thats the fun part of it.
    now i have to make a big service (cam belt, water pump etc, big end bearings, dmf/clutch upgrade) and then gather some money for the remap, to fit the oil cooler, and maaybe make an water methanol injection :smiley:
     
  16. Well done - that mega - total dedication and drafting the wife in too, top marks :grinning:

    The welds do look, er.. not great though :fearscream:
     
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  17. Looks are deceiving. :smiley:
    It only needs a god wirebrush treatment.

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  18. Some hoses to tidy up the engine bay

    36018128066_567f886aef_o.jpg 20170419_200433_zpsjfrgcz8r by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

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  19. updates slowly to come :smile:

    my old vs my new (used) dmf, (please like and share the video on YT).


    I managed to fit the RS250 DMF + clutch plus pressure plate, tho one thing that disappointed me way that the clutch plate is same diameter as the 1.9dci :smile: tho they are specified as 240 for 1.9dci and 250 for RS mk3.
    tho I can feel the new pressure plate being stiffer :smile:

    more on what was needed to fit the RS250 clutch to the 1.9dci later on :smile:
     
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  20. the light on the gauge turns on as the headlights do
    36059395575_2ee96924e5_o.jpg 20170502_171935_zpsyfzpn8g8 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
     
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  22. lets explain how the rs250 dmf set fit the 1.9dci :smile:
    the oem has 60 teeth crank position profile, 58 teeth's + 2 missing one
    the rs250 has the same 60 teeth position profile but 57 single teeths, one double teeth and one missing one. and is rotated compared to the oem.

    the work need to perform the conversion was to cut off the 2 teeth's at corresponding position, cut the double teeth to two single ones, and weld on a missing teeth.
     
  23. as the full brightness of the boost gauge irritated me at night driving I decided to make it adjustable. using 1k ohm potentiometer, the backlight can be adjusted from max brightness to turned of as seen on the video.
    the pot is "click" type so i have 4 positions:
    1-max
    2-dimmer
    3-even more dimmer
    4-turned off
     
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  24. I got to participate in a drag event held at Grobnik airstrip in Croatia. Sadly i had trouble with the car.









    and in the end I won the 3rd place in 16s class
    35926109631_2600dd8d4a_o.jpg 19648252_10213411043129433_1952010940_o by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    The problem I had was actually the intake pipe between the air filter and the turbo collapsing, and taking all of the pressure/flow down to minimum.
     
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  25. in the mean time we are slowly raising the power. here are few boost logs in the process.
    1.55bar (very low boost for this turbo)
    36018016896_db63421247_o.png Log - 2.55boost map 1st iteration._zpspb3ndv1v by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    but the boost was very stable.
    then we upped the "game" and raised the boost to 2.3bar
    36018016806_978a86099f_o.jpg Log 2.3bar_zpscdsmtvqr by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    , the redline is at 5000Rpm but I had to brake :worried:
    I need to adjust the VNT actuation a bit and that should be it.
    the second run was done with open airbox and no air filter.
    I thought of making an intake like this made by Steven878 shown in this thread Steven878's r26 build thread: 36059199295_fe67a6dec1_o.jpg 8db4a8c9dcdd230c8718c8aa2cde2fd8_zpsbfbt6gmm by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    will see what ill accomplish
     
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  26. matt e

    matt e South East RSM Area Rep

    pictures dont work @MilosB

    use flickr
     
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  27. the photobucket pulled the plug on me only yesterday, so now I have to re-upload every image and re organise.
    will do asap (probably tomorrow)
    very shitty move from photobucket...
     
  28. matt e

    matt e South East RSM Area Rep

    Photobucket has really gone down hill. So slow and full of adverts

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  29. Pictures RE-Uploaded...
     
  30. this (rubber pipe that goes on turbo) is the pipe that has been collapsing on me during the drag event.
    35219411164_8b0a336b5e_o.jpg 20170401_141539_zpszbbscsn3 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    I figured it out when I removed the intake pipe to the turbo, and the turbo and the power of it emerged.

    Then I figured I will use it to test out what is also restricting in the pre turbo intake system.
    removed the filter and filter holder (ie open airbox) and the problem was gone.
    it was then time to figure out if the filter it self is the flow limiter, or the airbox it self.
    I put the filter holder back in without the filter, and the problem is still present. so I think to my self, this must be because of the restriced airbox, so I cut it open :smiley: and ised it with the filter
    35220836984_639b09e7f4_o.jpg 20251101_10213630446894390_2406417_o by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    this was ok for a small period, but on hot days the pipe would collapse on me anyway.
    so I replaces the rubber pipe with a plastic one from another cars turbo air feed line and its "OK" ish, but im definitely planing on running a CAI system. just have to figure out how exactly.
     
  31. what do you guys think, is 50mm sufficient or should I use a 76mm ID pipes for turbo feed pipe (from air filter to turbo)?
    the 76mm is much harder to route to the front-fender like shown above
    the 76ID has 2.25times grater surface then the 50mm id one..
    I ordered this RAMAIR filter

    Thanks in advance for the help/advice.
     
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  32. Fitted a CAI
    And got my self an rs225 front and back bumper. Still unbiased abaut the rear. I dont know if I like it or not.
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  33. I love all the work and fabrication that had gone into this car.love individual build threads like this,makes for a great read.well done and keep up awesome modifying
     
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  34. Thanks for the support.

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  35. Alot of skill and knowledge in this thread.

    Good read.
     
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  36. That's a lot of work and effort you've put in there , great write up and keep it coming
     
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  37. described latest upgrade
    as mentioned before the intake to the turbo is very restrictive, and there isnt to much space either to fit a higher flow one.
    hence I decided to go with a Cold Air Intake - CAI and put a big sponge filter there (an 170mm OD 170mm long Ram Air cone)
    only god place for such is the front bumper underneath the headlight, but to get there, its a long road :smile:
    the stock airbox feed pie is 60mm OD and i desperately wanted to run at least 70mm ID which was an 76mm OD pipe as long as I could and only taper it on the very end to the 55mm ID (same as the OD on the turbo inlet)

    first thing first,
    this channel that the OEM feed pipe towards the airbox need to be widened.
    36933344785_7be1e5fd75_b.jpg 20170814_185142 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    the easiest way was to bend it.
    36793794441_304612fc80_b.jpg 20170814_191448 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    and woila, the 76OD pipe fits :smile:
    36537280130_1e351c3c92_b.jpg 20170814_190722 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    in the end i had to cut out a part of the bent piece to be able to route the 90deg bend down under the headlight as I have hid headlights, and they occupy more space behind them
    36100508254_39b8567a65_b.jpg 20170816_111019_HDR by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36794998831_d58fbf5298_b.jpg 20170816_111022_HDR by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    36763709612_76fd352398_b.jpg 20170816_111151 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr
    and it fits :smile:
    36100499204_644c13a48c_b.jpg 20170816_114031 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    I created a support that mounts to the body to stop any potential vibrations but I forgot to take photos :worried:

    battery trey was cut, and pipe is routed
    36537276770_fe8ea1edd6_b.jpg 20170816_172428 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    MAF retained (the plastic hose , with white strips was changed for a rubber one)
    36537275420_8880f2e40d_b.jpg 20170816_172430 by Milos Balunovic, on Flickr

    I ran the feed underneath the master brake cylinder to lower the need/number of the bends.
    I know I need to sand the welding marks, but I assure you on the inside, everything is clean.

    The IAT temps are now only a degree to two degrees higher than ambient temp which is huge improvement
     
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