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225 Hub Carrier assembly torque values please!

Discussion in 'Suspension, Brakes, Wheels & Tyres section' started by Cold_Drift, Jun 20, 2019.

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  1. Jun 20, 2019 #1
    Cold_Drift

    Cold_Drift

    Ok, so I have undertaken the adventure of changing the complete front suspension on my 225. This has been a hell of an journey and has taken days longer than expected. Anyhow, I am putting the hub carrier back into the shock mount assembly and I can't find the torque values for the top and bottom bolts that connect it to the rest of the pivot assembly. I have a pdf of the manual but it doesn't mention this torque value...

    Any help would be great!
     
  3. Jun 20, 2019 #2
    ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    Just do them up tight, top i would say around 40 ftlbs and the lower about 30 ftlbs, i don't bother with a torque wrench, only use a torque wrench for head bolts, big end and main bearings and of course wheel nuts when on track. :laughing::laughing:
     
  4. Jun 20, 2019 #3
    Cold_Drift

    Cold_Drift

    I don't know about 40ftlbs (55nm), when I took it off of there it seemed more like it had over 110nm of torque on it. I would prefer to find the correct values as over or under tightening the bolts is easily done. So far, every bolt I have screwed in, has been at the correct values and I would like to stay with that method if I can as I know the part will not be overly stressed.
     
  5. Jun 20, 2019 #4
    Cold_Drift

    Cold_Drift

    here is a picture of the part and arrows pointing to the bolts I am talking about. Not sure if my description above is good enough.

    pivot hub.JPG
     
  6. Jun 20, 2019 #5
    ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    Ahh those

    Yes they are a higher torque as the bolts are bigger, think they were around 130nm
     
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  7. Jun 20, 2019 #6
    Cold_Drift

    Cold_Drift

    yea, I am pretty sure they are up around there too. Because it is in such a critical location, I'm hoping someone has the values saved somewhere.
     
  8. Jun 21, 2019 #7
    Cold_Drift

    Cold_Drift

    I went to Renault today to pick up some parts and they were nice enough to look up the torque values.

    200 nm top and bottom.
     
  9. Jul 4, 2021 #8
    Harvey Smith

    Harvey Smith

    I would be interested in changing swivel hubs myself, I can imagine it is a bit of a job. Does anyone have torque values for all the other bolts ,that are removed ,or any usefully information regarding ,swivel hub replacement. What tonnage of press would be needed to push out the old hubs ? Any info ,please ,would be useful. should all bolts be renewed ? Regards
     
  10. Jul 4, 2021 #9
    chappers2000

    chappers2000

    https://turborenault.co.uk/threads/...25-r26-front-hub-lower-swivel-bearings.38970/
    Got mine ready to refresh and found the above useful. I’m reusing the top and bottom 24mm bolts. Just replacing the shock absorber pinch bolt and the 3 x 13mm bolts in each bottom plate, only because Ren7Oaks said they were a bit rounded (£30 for 6 bolts from Renault). Also have the grease bolt for the the bottom swivel bearing.
     
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  11. Jul 4, 2021 #10
    Brigsy

    Brigsy

    I done that guide for swivel bearing replacement years ago :grinning: no press needed for lower bearing, but upper will need something to pop it out. The upper bearing hardly ever needs changing in my experience.
     
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  12. Jul 5, 2021 #11
    Leigh

    Leigh

    Thats a top guide to be fair mate, used it myself so thanks [emoji1303].
    Been stealing your knowledge since 2005 (rtoc) so I probably owe you many thanks. [emoji1787]
     
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  13. Jul 5, 2021 #12
    Harvey Smith

    Harvey Smith

    Thanks Brigsy, that guide is very useful.
     
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  14. Jul 12, 2021 #13
    Brigsy

    Brigsy

    No worries mate :sunglasses: Rtoc used to be class then facebook came along and killed all the forums off
     
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  15. Jul 24, 2021 #14
    RichK

    RichK

    Hi Chappers do yoiu have a part number for the 13mm bottom plate bolts?
     
  16. Jul 24, 2021 #15
    matt e

    matt e South East RSM Area Rep

  17. Jul 24, 2021 #16
    Brigsy

    Brigsy

    The bolts renault supplied me had a larger head than original, 16mm or so iirc. Did not cause an issue mind.

    Could whip one out and go to a local fasteners, they arent nothing too flash just a flange head bolt, poss 10.9 grade
     
  18. Jul 25, 2021 #17
    chappers2000

    chappers2000

    13mm bolts 77 03 002 692 are nothing special, just M10 x 30mm flanged hex head bolts (threaded their entire length) and are 10.9 grade steel (not stainless). Almost £30 from Renault for 6 of them!!
     
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