Brakes...why so difficult to choose

Personally I would avoid 2-piece disks unless you have money to burn. The replacement discs are very expensive compared to standard. I would start with new fluid and some uprated pads. The standard braking on these is pretty decent. This is, of course, my opinion and depends entirely on your braking technique.

 

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Speak to Alyn he will give you honest advice and is able to supply what ever you need at very competitive prices.

 

You only change something if you have a problem. Else don't change it

Are you over heating?

Are you experiencing fade?

Is the initial bite to your liking?

If what you have works, then keep it

 

Easy , stock discs , a good brake pad (Pagid RS29 , Endless ) a good brake fluid (Motul RBF 660 , Castrol SRF ) and you're ready.

 

I tried a lot of brake pads for track but for me the best by far are the Endless circuit compound CC43, I order them here but always ask if they ship with low invoice to avoid high import taxes and they always do :-) 150£ + 40£ shipping and around 25£
importtaxes Total around 215£ you won't find them cheaper.... Ask for EP 357 with CC 43 compound.

http://www.rhdjapan.com/endless-circuit-compound-brake-pads-cc33-cc38-cc40-cc43-cc60.html

 

Great bit info as Endless are next on list to try out, out of interest did you try Carbotec XP range at all, the xp10 is a formidable pad itself


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Out in Spain in couple weeks time with XP10 as default pad in our group and XP12 along as well for cross reference, know the 12's offer stronger retardation but at what cost to disc's as they're not as kind, we'll have close look at the delta of pad v's disc wear.


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Never tryd Carbotec brake pads but will in the future , the Endless circuit compound lasts a long time on track ,most Germans drive them on the Nurburgring...

 

Ferodo ds uno have been amazing for me. Disc life is excellent and can stamp know the brakes all day without worry

 

Yep. That's my experience too - past a certain temp the wear is exponential - the critical threshold at Silverstone for me on PFC Z was 7 laps, which I breached on a couple of occasions...

 

Out of interest have you used the PFC 08s (up grade from the Z's) they are brilliant but a little harsh and have a tendency to squeal but they certainly stop you at any temperature, they are a used by some in the 24hr Le mans

 

It's tempting particularly as I know the people at PFC. BUT, I just wondered if they're not one grade too far creating too much imbalance with the OE rears friction coefficient (obviously I could upgrade those too but the Brembo rear pads are like £20) and probably more crucially if they would work (at all) after 10 miles of cold weather fast motorway use or even first thing in the morning... Still tempting though !!???

 

I hope you're looking after my calipers Jamie haha

 

I phoned AF for a quote for mine with all the mods, came back with a price, told them i was going to look around and they were quite adamant that there quote was the best i was going to get and nobody was going to better it, got a bit shirty when i wouldn't sign up, phoned Greenlight different all together and £80 cheaper.

Admiral wouldn't insure mine because i took out my rear seats

 

That's good to know, if they don't do BMW's looks like i will be staying with them then, will give them a call to see if they do cover for Mercedes as i am going to start using mine again.
The guy i spoke to at Greenlight fully expected me to try elsewhere before signing up.

 

Another vote for Ferodo. You can experience improved braking with this pad.

 

I run Performance Friction 08 compound on the race car after having overheating issues with a few pads and can say they are awesome not grabby at all compared to some and last longer than a lot of other pads! Use brembo HC discs it you can as well!!! Great combo!!!


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Agreed..

 

Do these squeak? I saw Apex Taxi from the Ring been sponsored by them and they currently run ME22 in their rentals.
I'm coming from PFZ Z Rated and haven't been impressed with them at all. Inital bite is dull but it's redeeming feature is that is remains that way even after extended use

 

I had the cc63's in my 225, they were really really good, lasted a very long time as well, felt good from cold, never faded with endless trackdays never had a single problem with them squeaking, paid silly money for mine.
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Once they wore out i went for PF z rated worked very well on my 225 with the mk3 brakes, put the PF z's in my 265 and they were rubbish, in the end i went for Carbon Lorraine RC8's, expensive but very very good.
Did try the Ferodo Ds uno's in the 265 and they were still very good.

Now i'm back in a Mk2, a R26, put the DS uno's in there they were really great, now i'm back on the PF z rated pads, they work very well on the R26