250 A/F Ratio?

Discussion in 'Mechanical - Engine, Gearbox, Exhaust etc' started by Charlie Howard, Oct 5, 2018.

  1. Charlie Howard

    Charlie Howard RSM Club Member

    What should the A/F be on these cars? Mines remapped by K-Tec so would that change it?
     
  2. Should be high 11s on boost. I personally would not want it to be any leaner than 11.9/12.0 on boost/WOT
     
  3. Charlie Howard

    Charlie Howard RSM Club Member

    Really that high? I know the Astra's can be mid 10s
     
  4. Mid 10s is way too rich for most megs. Most of the generic shite maps are around 10.0 from experience, can cause loads of issues in the long run.
     
  5. Charlie Howard

    Charlie Howard RSM Club Member

    What about on the lean end?
    What kind of issues does it cause?
     
  6. If used hard you might end up needing a piston or 4 if too lean. Whats the afr like on boost/Wot ?
     
  7. Charlie Howard

    Charlie Howard RSM Club Member

    I don't know haven't checked, I'll check tomorrow. I have no reason to believe mine isn't fine I'm just curious and it's good to know the normal figures for your car!
     
  8. Charlie Howard

    Charlie Howard RSM Club Member

    So what kind of numbers on the lean end? Mid 14s?
     
  9. -Jamie-

    -Jamie- RSM Moderator

    My EFI tuned one runs mid 11s
     
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  10. Charlie Howard

    Charlie Howard RSM Club Member

    Anyone know what K-Tec maps tend to be?
     
  11. -Jamie-

    -Jamie- RSM Moderator

    Anywhere from too rich to too lean [emoji23]
     
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  12. It will go bang rapldly if in the 14s on boost. Should be 11-12.0 range no leaner on boost/Wot if mapped correctly.

    As Jamie said i would expect any decent mapper to send it out mid/high 11s on boost for reliability.
     
  13. Charlie Howard

    Charlie Howard RSM Club Member

    Okay cheers lads, sorry I got mixed up. Always confuses me that lean is higher and rich is higher
     
  14. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    Optimum is 14.7, that's for normal running (cruising), that is 1 part fuel to 14.7 parts air, so the higher the number the more air so leaner :laughing:
     
  15. That’s the theoretical optimum (aka stoichiometric) but forced induction brings many other factors into play, especially engine cooling, exhaust gas temps and protecting the catalytic converter (emissions), hence these engines run much richer than stoich — 11-12, as others have said.
     
  16. Charlie Howard

    Charlie Howard RSM Club Member

    14 would be idle though? I would doubt running as rich as 12 when idle?

    My scanner can't even read my a/f so no idea what mine is but I no reason to doubt it. Just curious
     
  17. 1000-2000rpm - AFR14
    2000-2500rpm - AFR13.4
    2500-2900rpm - AFR 12
    2900-6500rpm - AFR 11.5
    Engine idles perfectly smooth, pulls from 0 mph to 167 mph (GPS) with zero hesitation
     
  18. Charlie Howard

    Charlie Howard RSM Club Member

    How are you testing this?
     
  19. The only way to check it is to either swap your lamda sensor for a wideband sensor and in car gauge, or check it on a dyno with the operator's sensor in the tailpipe.
     
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  20. On site dyno while mapping
     

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