For anyone that's interested I had my car weighed today as I was curious to what the ACTUAL figure is. So, megane 265 cup and only the recaros as an option nothing else, and fuel exactly between 1/4 and 1/2. 1380kg FAT! And in need of a diet haha.
Is it really lardy compared to the competition? If so, it clearly makes up for it in many other areas.
Would need actual figures of the others to compare. It would definitely benefit from being 100kg less imo. You can feel the weight.
http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/cars/megane-renaultsport-nav-275-trophy/specification/ Kerb Weight (Excluding Driver) (kg) 1376 So sounds about right
Well mine is pre facelift so unsure if if it weighs the same. Pretty sure the trophy comes standard with extras on the 265. So it would be heavier. Sure I read Renault quoted the kerb weight for the 265 cup was 1280kg. Need to check my V5
The Trophy-R is quoted as being 1280KG. Unlike the (last gen) Clios, the Meganes aren't really any cheaper in Cup form (not in any noticeable way anyway). The only real weight options I can think of are the heated seats on the FF without Recaros (have you lifted heated seats?! Fair old weight saving by not having those) and the panoramic sunroof is quite a heavy option too. The climate control might be a little heavier than standard air-con, but in the grand scheme of things you're probably talking about just a kilogram or two.
Maybe that's where I got the 1280 from. At least it is the correct weight and not over. Sure I could shave 100kg off it
Rear seats will be about 15kg (weighted the bench on my Fiesta years ago, the Megane seat bottoms are lighter but the backs are heavier). Replacing the front seats with race seats would probably save you the same again. Unless you start looking at carbon bonnets and taking off door cars I think you'd run out of things to do! Harnesses will be a good bit lighter than road seatbelts too, but are a right pain if it's your only car, especially when you want to change a song on the stereo and realize you're strapped in too tight. You'd probably save 8KG by ripping out all the speakers and stereo (would the RS monitor even work without the stereo?). At the end your car would be 100kg lighter, your wallet much lighter, and your car's residual value much lighter again
I have a target weight of mine for 1250kgs over the winter, Should be do able with some choice mods. The Recaros are pretty heavy and a pair of proper seats weighs a bit less than one Recaro
would there be much saving with a set of light weight wheels? or are the standard cup wheels pretty good as they are? completely removing the aircon including pump, condenser and controls would save a fair bit imo, less rotating mass for the engine too.
You could probably save a couple of kilos per wheel, but not a huge amount. I just weighted my spare 18" wheel with an Eagle F1 on it at 22.2KG. The tyre is 10KG itself, so that's about 12KG for the wheel, which really isn't bad for the size. My Pro Race 1.3s were 11KG each, so you've got a slight weight saving there.
My enkeis are 8.9kg each in 18s and you can feel the difference. Unsprung weight always one of the best to shed ie wheels, brakes etc
That's a really nice saving! The wheels on my 7 (13") are just under 4.5KG each, so 8.9KG for an 18" wheel is very good indeed.
back seats (-20kg) air-con (-6kg) rear wiper (-1kg) sound deadening (-21kg) bucket seats (-22kg), 19-inch Speedline alloys (-5kg) and race battery (-16kg) mine must weigh basically 1400 in full fat, bet it feels nice at 1297kg!
interesting to read the gearing 265 (lsd gearbox) 1st 9.16 2nd 14.48 3rd 20.33 4th 27.48 5th 34.57 6th 41.84 [TABLE="width: 293"] [TR] [TD="width: 33%"] 1st gear [/TD] [TD="width: 33%"]275 9.04 [/TD] [TD="width: 33%"]275.R 9.20 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="width: 33%"] in 2nd gear [/TD] [TD="width: 33%"] 14.30 [/TD] [TD="width: 33%"] 14.52 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="width: 33%"] in 3rd gear [/TD] [TD="width: 33%"] 20.07 [/TD] [TD="width: 33%"] 20.39 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="width: 33%"] in 4th gear [/TD] [TD="width: 33%"] 27.13 [/TD] [TD="width: 33%"] 27.55 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="width: 33%"] in 5th gear [/TD] [TD="width: 33%"] 34.13 [/TD] [TD="width: 33%"] 34.66 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="width: 33%"] in 6th gear [/TD] [TD="width: 33%"] 41.31 [/TD] [TD="width: 33%"] 41.96 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] made the 275 gearing longer than the 265, but 275.r even shorter? or is it the other way around - I would have thought the .r would have longer gearing as less weight?
Those figures look like km/h per 1,000 revs, so the 275 is lower geared than the 265 but the R has the highest gearing (if there right of course)
16kg saving in the battery?? seems a hell of alot to me. a race battery for most wont be very practicle in the middle of winter with lights, radio, blowers all sapping juice especially if you do a few short jurneys on the bounce.
The parcel shelf, boot flooring, foam, extinguisher, pump come to about 10-11kgs. These were the first things out of mine. Back seats come out for track days so thats approx 30kg. Or about 3/4 tank of fuel offset Thinking of replacing the Recaros with Fixed buckets. 16KG is about right if you swapped with a Super B race battery about 3.5kg (about £900 though :eek think a normal battery is about 20kgs. Also AFAIK modern Lithium batteries provide equal cold performance to Lead-acid batteries. But have much faster charge times and slower discharge rates. Happy to be corrected though
19" Speedlines are about 11,5-12kg per wheel also, just weighted them the other day when i putted new tyres. And also the tyre was 11kg.
I took out the space saver wheel (around 30kg) Just added the inflatable foam in case of a dire emergency.
