KTR in Blandford

Havent had experience of them through buying a car, but after having work done and spending the day there, I couldn't fault the quality of work or service I received. They really do know their stuff.

 

Bit of a can of worms asking about k-tek some people love them and some people hate them.
Personnaly I've only used them for mail order parts, but I wouldn't trust them with any mechanical work and certainly not mapping, a few people have had shocking maps off them destroying their engines well renowned in the Clio scene for causing a lot of problems!

Although I haven't heard anything bad about their car sales

 

Apart from the Ktax they seem ok to buy a car off. As said above though

 

I'm still yet to see solid examples of these few people though.. anyone I have spoken to who has actually had work done there rather than shooting their load on the forum has only ever had good things to say. I recommended them to a couple of mates and they've had as good experiences as me.

As for their apparent inability to map.. Had mine done 7 months ago and have done over 10k miles without a so much as a cough

A can of worms indeed!

 

A poor map wont manifest itself straight away. In fact, you could run around for years with a crap map not knowing exactly what its doing and not benefiting from the map in any way other than poor consumption and it pulling a shed load of timing ( for example )

I have seen poor work ( wrong timing setup on a car ) of KTEC work personally.

 

That's fair enough. I know I am only one example, but my consumption hasn't been affected and the car pulls and pulls relentlessly. Maybe I'm a lucky one then..?

I'd be amazed if the sacred RS Tuning have never run a duff map though

 

As an example of their poor customer service:

I purchased CL RC5 pads for my Clio. They fell apart from the backing plates and crumbled ruining my discs aswell. Emailed ktec who asked me to send them back. I did and paid for them to be sent back.

6 weeks later they denied having them or even selling them to me.

Two weeks later they admitted but said they weren't faulty and I'd exceeded the operating temps. Ridiculous on the road.

I asked for them back so I could send to CL themselves. To which they refused and said they threw them away. Broken or not it was my property they binned.
Their response was to tell me "if you're that bothered and want a refund take us to court"

Obviously not worth the effort so I got burnt learnt my lesson and will never purchase from them again.

Loads of similar stories on the Clio forums.

 

It's been fairly well documented on cliosport and fb, with evidence from other garages that timing is out on cambelt changes.
Massively over/ under fuelling, far too much advanced ignition, knocking like crazy etc etc.
Iirc Paul and k Tec had a bit of a slanging match on fb with Paul posting up the afr graphs of there map etc. With k Tec saying there was nothing wrong with the map even though there was evidence!

Michael at mwm motorsport had to go with a customer to k Tec and waited/ watched the mapper (Andy I think) until it was a decent map which took a fair few hours IIRC. He did this as k Tec kept denying responsibility so he went down there to sort it out face to face, as the maple was so bad he feared for the engine!

And quite a few engines have gone bang after there maps/ work in the clioworld.

 

Have you ever had the afr checked or anything after your map jocky?
As I vaguely remember reading somewhere that superchips had contacted k Tec for help with their generic map that comes with their tool, and after the customer had it rr it was producing marginally more power with poor fuel consumption, running lean and knocking like crazy!

 

I haven't no. All I've done since is having it run on a separate rolling road for figures which came out near enough as K-Tec produced.

 

I was speaking to a guy at a clio meet who iirc got his Meg engine forged and mapped by them, only for it to shit it's self on the way home Ktec wouldn't accept responsibility.

 

Rolling roads power prints dont tell 1/2 the picture. I would get it checked.

As for RST doing a duff map, I doubt it TBH. The chap that maps them wont let shit go out.

 

The op asked about buying a car from k tec not having a map, Imo always try to buy an original example from an enthusiast owner privately before resulting in buying from a garage where 2nd hand. This said my 250 came from k tec totally standard car ( at the time) via a trade sale and it was and still is fine.

 

Have another look.

 

my apologies I missed that! Well For buying a car they are ok ( not cheapest )but have selection and I've had no probs with mine. Can't and won't comment on anything else. As my car is maintained and enhanced elsewhere.

 

Bought mine from ktec and was the best example I could get. They mapped it and fitted a ktr cat back and it has been amazing. Rolling roaded it locally and came out higher than the ktec figures . Their mapper who people has issues with has moved on and their new guy seemed very good

 

My own 225 was mapped by ktec + 3" exhaust by the previous owner 3 years ago (receipts to prove it) and no probs I've encountered (cept having to go to the UK for a specialist!)

 

There is a reason why K Tec have gone into selling cars. They're shit at working on them

 

There's another reason, easy money.

 

Rs tuning has blown up a fair few mazda mps's. On mpsOC theyr not liked atall.

I think bad news always spreads fast. People often forget to prais good work.

 

Yeah I agree. I got my focus rs mapped by torque of the devil when they were liked only for a bad experience to literally drive them out of business. My mini was mapped by evolve who everyone raved about but their mapping resulting in detonation of my engine . Ktecs map of my 250 is great. AFR looks strong too .

 

Thats simply not true. Its owners who have brought their cars in who have had a poor state of repair. Things like turbo smoking after a map. You cant make a turbo smoke from a map , its oil going past a seal.

I would also suggest you look at this thread which state

[quote="over the mazda forum Andy copied and pasted this]

I think Paul got a rough ride on here previously through no fault of his own, the only people who were not happy on the RR day were the people who thought they were running big figures but clearly not that big, only joking fellas, but some people were happy with there results and some not, which I think would happen on any RR day to be honest

[/quote]

I have seen KTEC maps , I have seen their work. Just saying be careful

 

Do you know the name of the new mapper? Not Andy?

 

Not the ex GDI mapper anymore who everyone had issue with . Can't remember the name of who is mapping now.

 

Andy Cutler is now at Phoenix Automotive Technologies

 

Cool. I bought mine from KTR for top whack but was the only perfect example with all options I found. I saw what the private seller had it up for before selling to KTR which they'd loaded by £1000. I knocked them down £250 and got the map done free and free fitting of their exhaust too so feel like I got value overall

 

sounds good mate! I wouldn't be concerned with the mileage either. Mines at 62.5k now, mapped and still running like a dream.

 

The MPS is an absolute pig to tune. I don't know of anyone or any method that has proven to be totally reliable.

Gunther who the forum was still latched onto in this thread is now public enemy number 1, with legal cases and all kinds of silliness going on.

After years and years of difficulties, MPS owners still insist on the tuning route, must be a jap thing.

1.8t and 2.0 vag engines are what they should go for if they want to tune the tits off a hatchback.

 

Do you work for rs?

Why didnt rs refuse to tune it if the turbo seals had gone?

Personally i dont understand why someone would take there mazda to a renault specialist for a map.

 

Gunther is banned from mpsoc for screwing over so many people.

There is one good tuner who does it as a hobby. Hes tuned aprox 150 mps's including my 6mps. It made 357bhp 370lbft a few weeks back. his and a few others are running 450+whp

E tuning is the way forward imo

 

No.

Perhaps the turbo seal was fine at the boost it came in with , but once tweaked it wasnt ? Perhaps it let go after it was mapped.

A decent mapper is a decent mapper. Irrespective of who or what he maps. See Scoff @ EFI-Parts for another example

 

I dont know what car this is your on about but iv know of two which have had trouble with knock and dodgey afr's, rs didnt like it when the owners said they want there cars maps putting back to standard.

i think your wrong saying a good tuner can map anything. Tables, limits, breakpoints etc all are completely different from one engine to the next. How does someone know how much torque the rods can take on a engine they've never seen before. Especially when they only have your car for a day.

like you said before just be careful who you choose.

 

Knowing a couple of quality tuners ( Scoff and Paul ) they seem able to turn their hand to anything. I think they prefer certain cars and enjoy tuning certain ones more than others.

You are correct in terms of not knowing what bends rods, but if you provide a bit of logic with this then its not a big issue. running 230ibft and jumping to say 400ibft is going to be a disaster. You can also freely research the component parts of an engine. For instance should a petrol engine have a diesel set of rods in ( for arguements sake ) they TEND to be stronger. Stuff like that.

Its part of their game and their experience.