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225 Getting to 300 bhp options?

Discussion in 'Mechanical - Engine, Gearbox, Exhaust etc' started by Azagedon, Sep 22, 2014.

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  1. Sep 22, 2014 #1
    Azagedon

    Azagedon

    I've got a 225 engine in my clio 197, I think reaching 300/300 would be the perfect amount of power. I'm almost there just need a tiny bit more!
    Currently at 270 bhp, 301lbft with induction and 3" decat and exhaust. Std injectors, std pipes + intercooler.

    I'm thinking a 250 turbo (?) 630cc injectors, boost pipes, bigger FMIC and some ARP bolts? :confused:

    Whats your opinions? I understand it's near the 'limit' but It's well looked after and all that.
     
  3. Sep 22, 2014 #2
    Ben_r1

    Ben_r1

    I think you need stronger rods to get upto 300bhp...
     
  4. Sep 22, 2014 #3
    Azagedon

    Azagedon

    Would I get away with just the rod bolts?
     
  5. Sep 22, 2014 #4
    MJ57

    MJ57

    225 engine, its torque that kills them not BHP i think you'll struggle. On my old engine i had hybrid, 630's, IC, Decat and made 284/301 didn't want to go any more due to the rods
     
  6. Sep 22, 2014 #5
    Mark.

    Mark.

    I'm running 293/310 and all that differs from my engine to yours is a Hybrid Turbo & 630's

    I'm not sure how big an intercooler you can fit behind the Clio bumper, a 250 or a 225 Hybrid will get you where you want to be.

    Not sure how different a 250 Hybrid will be to a 225 Hybrid on a 225 engine, so many variables :confused:
     
  7. Sep 22, 2014 #6
    Azagedon

    Azagedon

    There is a intercooler and pipe kit that can support 300+ so no worries on that :smile:.

    Thing is I've seen a 225/250 hybrid I like (19t can do 370bhp...) around £1200 same price as other hybrids... BUT for half the price you can buy a new std 250 turbo which can do 300? Agreed loads of variables, at least its a strong base in the first place though.
     
  8. Sep 22, 2014 #7
    andybond

    andybond

    a meg 250 turbo should do 300bhp.
    Filter / decat / 630s / 250 turbo / intercooler seems the relevant route
     
  9. Sep 22, 2014 #8
    Azagedon

    Azagedon

    I thought so mate, what's your thoughts on the ARP bolts / rods?
     
  10. Sep 22, 2014 #9
    andybond

    andybond

    Wouldnt bother tbh. Do it all , or go home :smile:
     
  11. Sep 22, 2014 #10
    Azagedon

    Azagedon

    Good shout. 1500 for the bits you mentioned, not bad I think! Temping. :smiley:
     
  12. Sep 22, 2014 #11
    mr.clarke.

    mr.clarke.

    I'm going to see how close I can get without new turbo.

    Manley conrods
    ARP bolts.
    Decat
    Itg
    630cc
    Fmic
    K-tec 2.75 exhaust
    Forge recirc
    Forge actuator.

    Then after maybe hybrid.
     
  13. Sep 22, 2014 #12
    andybond

    andybond

    Bin the bolts and get a turbo.

    285bhp. 290 at an absolute balls out slightly lean map.
     
  14. Sep 22, 2014 #13
    mr.clarke.

    mr.clarke.

    Already fitted mate :smile:

    I'll see how this pans out and decide after a good week at work. :smile:
     
  15. Sep 22, 2014 #14
    Lee in scunny

    Lee in scunny

    My totally standard block saw 304bhp & 335ftlb for over 2 years with trackdays n all. I had hybrid & 630cc injectors on top of what you have.
    Lee
     
  16. Sep 22, 2014 #15
    Azagedon

    Azagedon

    Looking forward to see the results, you had it mapped? You can be the guinea pig to sway me buying one :wink:

    +Cheers for the info Lee, looks like you had a strong std engine.
     
  17. Sep 22, 2014 #16
    andybond

    andybond

    Linkification please.
     
  18. Sep 22, 2014 #17
    mr.clarke.

    mr.clarke.

    Keefylad on here can get them gents.

    Or could.
     
  19. Sep 22, 2014 #18
    mr.clarke.

    mr.clarke.

    It's meant to be 270bhp -300lb, with printout.

    Its a quick car to say the least but until I have it on the rollers at rst, I will not properly know.
     
  20. Sep 22, 2014 #19
    Azagedon

    Azagedon

    Thats the same power I'm running now mate with the std blower.
     
  21. Sep 22, 2014 #20
    mr.clarke.

    mr.clarke.

    Il keep you updated or let you know once it's gone Bang.
     
  22. Sep 23, 2014 #21
    andybond

    andybond

    ah , with you.
     
  23. Sep 23, 2014 #22
    chris

    chris

    There's a guy in here or the other site can't remember who can get turbos built to your spec for 600. I wasgoibg to buy a hybrid 250 off him before I decided I quite liked my engine without holes in.
     
  24. Sep 23, 2014 #23
    Azagedon

    Azagedon

    I assume thats an exchange item, ones I was talking about were brand new units :smile:.
    Silly reason not to get one though as you could have a conservative map i.e 270-280, and hybrids use less boost so lower temps too.
     
  25. Sep 23, 2014 #24
    chris

    chris

    Iirc they were new units fella. I'll dig the link/thread out when I'm not at work (on my phone).
     
  26. Sep 23, 2014 #25
    richmeg

    richmeg

    Forge Actuator or Recirc not required for these sort of power figures?
     
  27. Sep 23, 2014 #26
    Azagedon

    Azagedon

    A fairly standard megane 250 will make 300 bhp fella
     
  28. Sep 23, 2014 #27
    andybond

    andybond

    Not that I am aware ..
     
  29. Sep 23, 2014 #28
    Gray

    Gray RSM Moderator

    You know mine has been running 302hp / 320ft.lb for 3yrs and 3 months.

    It's covered around 40K miles, 3k of that was a HARD drive to France, Geneva, the Alps and a couple of track days.. still no problems!

    In fact, when I just checked the dates I found a photo of mine and your old 225 on top of a mountain in France :wink:

    [​IMG]

    #memories
     
  30. Sep 23, 2014 #29
    Azagedon

    Azagedon

    What was the spec Gray?
     
  31. Sep 23, 2014 #30
    Steve1

    Steve1

    Do you think you'll ever get your engine fitted gray
     
  32. Sep 23, 2014 #31
    Gray

    Gray RSM Moderator

    AET hybrid turbo, 630cc injectors, turbo back Milltek exhaust and a few Forge Motorsport parts.
    Plan is to do it over Winter when the garage is sorted... I've got roof sheets and insulation now, need to give my roofer mate a shout to give me a hand :wink:
     
  33. Sep 23, 2014 #32
    Lee in scunny

    Lee in scunny

    Your engine build is nearly as old as mine Kieran. :smile:
    lee
     
  34. Sep 24, 2014 #33
    chris

    chris

  35. Sep 24, 2014 #34
    Gray

    Gray RSM Moderator

    slow and steady wins the race? :wink:
     
  36. Sep 24, 2014 #35
    Azagedon

    Azagedon

    Thanks chris :smile:.
     
  37. Sep 24, 2014 #36
    chris

    chris

    No worries he gets them very cheap.
     
  38. Sep 24, 2014 #37
    Azagedon

    Azagedon

    He was last online 2 months ago, I hope he picks up the thread again:confused:
     
  39. Sep 24, 2014 #38
    chris

    chris

    If you get a reply give me a shout as I'll most likely have one off him now. I changed my mind at the time but I'm feeling the love again.
     
  40. Sep 24, 2014 #39
    mr.clarke.

    mr.clarke.

    Also pm'd him so will let him know.
     
  41. Sep 24, 2014 #40
    Sokol

    Sokol

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