Battery to the boot and fuses

Discussion in 'Electrical & Interior - Security, ICE, Wiring Loom' started by Agreen, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. So I've got the battery in the boot and ran a new cable with an inline mega fuse close to the battery.

    The attached pic shows the existing set up which was at the battery, with two 30a fuses coming away from the main line.

    My question is, do I also need to fuse where the existing battery was, or is the one fuse at the battery enough and can I change the two 30a fuses for spade fuses that attach at a junction box with the main cables?
     

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  2. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    When i did mine, i cut the battery terminal off from the underside of the fuse block and the middle top nut on the second pic, i put a terminal end on the end of the battery cable and attached it to that, then i made a cover for the top of the fuses as mine didn't have one, then i taped it on with duct tape.
     
  3. That was my plan, but the original box is disintegrating and with me laying the ecu flat, I'm a little concerned it would short out on it!

    That's why I've got the junction box, I'm just a little concerned that the spade fuse won't be up to the job!

    I guess I could try it and if the fuse goes, back to the drawing board.
     
  4. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    Why don't you put the fuse block inside the junction box, i just wrapped the whole thing with duct tape and moved it to the side chassis member.
     
  5. The junction box is small, if you look at pic1, you'll see the main cables feeding in to one side, I was going to add two 30a spade fuses to the other but I'm not sure if I need a fuse before them, or if the fuse by the battery is enough.

    Have toyed with the idea of something like this.
     
  6. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    You could get a bigger junction box :laughing::laughing:
    The fuses that are in the old box are slow blow fuses, so fitting automotive might not work too well.

    You could run a wire out of the small box into a second box and put the other two fuses in that one.
     
  7. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    oohhh sorry

    That fuse block looks the business, i would go for that
     
  8. Yeah I'm liking the idea of that fuse box the more I look at it!

    I know it'll be safe and should look quite tidy too.
     
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  9. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    it really does look good that one
     
  10. Not sure if it'll fit in with the bodge theme I've got going. :tearsofjoy:
     
  11. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    You are aloud to break the rules now and again :laughing::laughing:
     
  12. I ordered the enclosed fuse box today, as well as an aluminium battery holder to bolt down into the spare wheel well.

    I've uncovered a load of dodgy wiring that looks like it's an alarm system, I may need a separate thread for that lol.
     
  13. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    Are you using the battery that was in the front ???
    That will be interesting if you are.

    I bought a Gel battery so there wasn't any chance of acid spilling or gasses in the inside of the cabin.
     
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  14. I am for now, may change to something different in the future.

    Not overly concerned about spillage etc with the amount it gets used.
     
  15. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    I suppose that is true this year. :cry::cry:
     
  16. Ahh crap, I've broken it!

    Connected everything up, the ignition came on etc but when I went to start it, it died!

    I now have no ignition etc, but the red light on the dash is on permanently so I assume it's got an immobiliser that's kicked in and killed everything?
     
  17. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    It sounds like you might have a bad earth, be worth checking that.

    Did you get that new fuse block, have you blown a fuse in there
     
  18. Yeah I got the fuse block. Fuses seem okay but I'll check them again.

    I earthed to a bolt that was poking through the boot, maybe that's not up to the job?
     
  19. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    I ran an earth to the boot as well as the power cable, i didn't want to take any chances
     
  20. So I've just left the existing negatives together, only difference being they're in a neater junction box, I've then fitted a new strap from the - to a bolt in the boot?
     
  21. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    put a volt meter on the connections and see if there is any volt drop across the wires, or run another piece of wire from the battery to the points in the engine bay
     
  22. It's pouring down now so can't just yet!

    Strange that I had ignition etc and then went to crank and lost everything? The red light is solid now too so not sure if there's an immobiliser issue?
     
  23. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    That's why i said about a bad earth or a bad power connection, drawing a large current will show up a bad connection.

    If there is a bad connection it will give a very high resistance thus only low power consuming items will work, check all your connections again, i mean, undo them and reattach.

    Can you lock and unlock the car ???
     
  24. Okay, I'll disconnect everything and reattach, check all the fuses etc too and see if I can get the ignition back and go from there!
     
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  25. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    Just get you coat on and get out there :laughing::laughing::laughing:
     
  26. Ha, really coming down tbh so will probably have a bash tomorrow now.
     
  27. Earth connection isn't good enough!

    Checked all the fuses and all seem okay, but the earth isn't good enough.in that position.

    Firstly, I'll try and sand the area down a little to get better contact, failing that, I'll run another cable to the original connection.
     

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  28. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    I know it's a bit of a pain, but run another cable, gotta be the way to go
     
  29. She lives.

    Gave the connection a good sand down and fired up first time.
     
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  30. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    All good then :laughing::laughing::laughing:
     
  31. A big relief tbh, just need to work out what's going on with all the dodgy wiring to what looks to be an alarm system now!
     
  32. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    good pair of wire cutters required then :laughing::laughing:
     
  33. It's a strange one, there's some definite aftermarket wiring going on, but it looks like it's connected to some original loom at some point!

    Will start to disconnect one bit at a time and see what happens!
     
  34. I’ve got a load of wiring in the near side rear. Turned out it’s the factory alarm system so best left alone.
     
  35. I run my original battery in the boot in a battery box but run the original battery vent pipe out of the bottom of the wheel well so it vents outside. Shouldn't be a problem.
     
  36. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    If it's in a box and vented then thats as good as you can do with a lead acid battery.
     
  37. Mine doesn't even have the wiring in the doors for the locks anymore so the alarm is irrelevant lol.

    If it's an immobiliser, things may get tricky.

    I need to spend some time on it and get it all back together as I'm pretty much going to be back in work from next week.
     
  38. It was the alarm system, car starts etc with it disconnected so binned it.

    Running now, hopefully I'll get the bumper on tomorrow and take it for a spin.
     

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  39. friend because of him.
    I'm considering putting the battery in the back
    :tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy::sweatsmile::sweatsmile:
     
  40. Finally got it back together!

    The air filter location is much better, before it was tucked at the back, behind the battery etc and almost resting on the gearbox! Should be able to find some cooler air up at the top there now!

    My only concern is that I've bolted the battery holder to the plastic wheel well and I'm not sure how strong that is. I may fit a secondary steel tether bolted somewhere to the body as a precaution.

    I even had the front bumper respayed so it looks a little less of a banger!

    Ohh, I'm not to fond of the electric water pump that's resting against the side of the block! I may (probably not) alter that in the future as a precaution.
     

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