225 Hesitation in revs and lumpy under load. TDC?

Discussion in 'Mechanical - Engine, Gearbox, Exhaust etc' started by IceKold0, Sep 21, 2019.

  1. 2007 Megane 225 full fat.

    Got a problem where the car starts ok but get a lumpy feeling at idle.

    If I "blip" the accelerator I get a hesitation and then the revs pick up.

    Once the revs have picked up they remain constant and I don't notice any hesitation or lumpiness. Certainly can't hear anything like a misfire.

    However, the moment I put the car under any load (in gear and start to drive, either forward or reverse) I get a lumpiness that is constant in rhythm - like a misfire. If I disengage any load then idle feels ok again but if I blip the accelerator I still get the hesitation before revs pick up.

    Changed all 4 plugs.
    Had non-CLIP diagnostics - healthy

    Have read that TDC could be culprit?

    I'm not sure coils or injectors because idle "seems" ok, and so too does when I press the accelerator after any immediate "hesitation". I.e. it'll seemingly hold at, say, 3000rpm without feeling any lumpiness.

    On the 225 where is the TDC sensor located? I get "Top Dead Centre", but I can't find in the downloaded workshop manual where there location and steps are.

    Also, if I replace the sensor does any reprogramming or other procedure need to be done? I've found "something" in the manual that relates to TDC in the ignition section that covers diesel and petrol but it talks about some reprogramming and such steps as driving the car up to a certain number of revs and then taking feet off pedals to let the car stop and allow idle torque to take the load? Is it as complicated as this or have I misread/misunderstood?
     
  2. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    TDC sensor is in the front of the gearbox and it doesn't need reprogramming, plug and play.
    I would change the plugs and coils, unless you know they have been changed.
    What is the idle speed, if it a bit higher then you could have an air leak somewhere.
     
  3. Plugs changed. Coils not yet.

    The diagnostics just had done (not CLIP) didn't suggest a faulty coil (no engine codes at all), but would they not throw up an error code?

    Also, wouldn't a coil have the symptom constantly?

    Cheers
     
  4. P.s. idle is within normal. Certainly not higher than I've ever experienced.
     
  5. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    So no air leaks then.
    Clip is the only real way to check the logged faults, generic readers are a bit hit and miss on Renaults, coils are a problem on these had to change them on both of my cars
     
  6. Thanks for all the suggestions... Turned out to be a coil pack.

    Phew.
     

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