Engine failed

Discussion in 'Mechanical - Engine, Gearbox, Exhaust etc' started by ianplymouth, Oct 19, 2017.

  1. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    Hi all
    A couple of people already knew that my engine let go at Spa couple of weeks ago.
    I managed to get the car off of the circuit and stored at a safe place, on Saturday i left to go to Nurburgring for my track day i booked at Christmas, i hired a trailer and set off to Folkestone, caught the ferry out as it worked out cheaper than the tunnel.

    I hired a car for the track day, that is all i am going to say about that :openmouth:

    Left the following morning to collect the Megane for Belgium, loaded up and off back home.

    Well this morning i pulled the engine out, checked that the cambelt hadn't come loose or lost teeth as there didn't seem to be any compression when i tried to restart it on track, next stripped the head off and this is what awaited me :sob:

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    I did wonder why i couldn't get the spark plug out
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  2. WTF? Is that molten metal?
     
  3. And what car did you hire? :-)
     
  4. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    No, it's whats left of one of the valves and the damage it did rattling around inside
     
  5. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    An Audi TT tfsi, autobahn maybe track day nooooooo
     
  6. matt e

    matt e South East RSM Area Rep

    what would cause that? and what your next plan?
     
  7. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    really not sure what the cause was, theory 1 is possible oil starvation or over revving from the accident the original car suffered from and theory 2 i am just unlucky :laughing:
     
  8. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    My Plan, not sure yet, i have 2 spare 225 engines, may forge one of them, or forge the 250 engine if i can find another head
     
  9. Hmm I never got see the state of my engine when that piston blew - maybe similar.
     
  10. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    No chance :laughing: i bought an engine that had the usual number one piston fail and it was no where near that messy, all it had was a bit melted out of the top of the piston and then down the side into the piston rings.
     
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  11. Wow that dropped a valve good.
     
  12. Forge that shit baby! We don't need to eat!
     
  13. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    Ha ha ha just weighing up my options at the moment
    Could go to Renault and by a brand new lump, or forge this one if i can get a cylinder head, or forge the engine that came out :confused:
     
  14. This is quite common on clio 1*2's, dropping valves. Only way to stop it is going one piece valves
     
  15. So sorry to see this mate .thata awful and the fact it happened so far from home.u just dont need that s#/t.
     
  16. You are really unlucky with these engines. Can’t believe this happened to you again☹️☹️
     
  17. That's brutal

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  18. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    I know it doesn't have an easy life in my hands, but it is not running silly power and spends most of it's time on the track, i just think more had happened to it in the donor car accident than i was expecting, it can be fixed :laughing:
     
  19. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    Here you go Eddie ninja, pick of the engine i bought that had number 1 failure
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    The valve is missing cus it tried it in the 250 head and it don't fit
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  20. Are they bigger valves in the 250, or a different profile on the head?
     
  21. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    The stems are 0.5mm bigger in diameter on the shaft, but the head size looks the same
     
  22. Makes some sense, I guess slightly stronger valves. Or cheaper [emoji23][emoji23]

    You going to do a fully forged rebuild now?
     
  23. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    Well that is what you would have thought or hoped for, but after speaking to some engineering companies today it seems that this is a fairly common problem with valves breaking.
    So my cylinder head has gone off for a rebuild, the guy recons no problem :sunglasses:

    So i think yes it's going to be played with, as to how far i am not sure yet. :laughing::laughing::laughing:
     
  24. Well tbh, the head doesn't look that bad! i'd have all those valves replaced though as they took the beating by the looks of it!

    So basically the current engine is going back together with uprated internals?
     
  25. ianplymouth

    ianplymouth RSM Club Member

    Ohhh i don't know about that, it pretty bad in that part, couldn't get the spark plug out and the other 3 valve are a right mess, i will have to change the pistons as there is a big hole in that one, so might as well go forged.
    Just bought a set of valves £500 :cry: i think this is going to cost something to do, can't work out if putting a set of Cat cams in is going to be worth it.
     

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