So how strong are the R26.r engines?

Discussion in 'Mechanical - Engine, Gearbox, Exhaust etc' started by Dan, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. Dan

    Dan

    Just a thought, how strong are these engines?
     
  2. Around 300bhp/300lbs torque seems to be the going "safe" figure on standard internals
     
  3. Dan, I've an R myself and I'm very kind to it, but I do track days with some other R26/R26.R owners running stage 1 and stage 2 who absolutely leather the absolute shite out of them and their still going strong one of which have done over 50 track days, they are also used as ring rental cars at the ring by RSR, can't be that bad dan

    cheers Steve
     
  4. The ones that have let go have all had decats and all over 300lb, has to be the torque
     
  5. Naith

    Naith RSM Admin

    For what they are the F4Rs are really strong, the pistons bend before anything.
     
  6. Weakest link in the engine are the rods, which hold about 300 safely and than the piston ring lands which should hold 320 HP but that is pushing the luck.Orherwise it is very good engine!
     
  7. Erm not true, might be the only ones you know of though
     
  8. Dan

    Dan

    I'm not thinking of changing mine in anyway. Just wondered if they were any good.

    I plan you do the odd track day in mine, but its never taken over 5,500-6,000 revs.

    Thanks for all the replies..
     
  9. Neither do I dan, power tails off then anyway mate
     
  10. Gray

    Gray RSM Moderator

    Sokol is correct, the ring lands are normally what let go piston wise.. bad mapping / Det can break them, if you're really unlucky they could have a casting fault which rears it's head when more heat / power is produced.

    The rods seem 'good' for around 300~ ft.lb anymore and you are asking for trouble!

    They are ok to rev, 7.8K RPM is no problem on an F4R :smile:
     
  11. Is there any way of making use of higher revs? 5500rpm seems a bit low for peak power.
     
  12. Gray

    Gray RSM Moderator

    You can still rev the car higher RPM, but its the turbo which runs out of puff.

    Below is a graph of my car running a hybrid TD04, which makes peak at 6k RPM:

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  13. Not a case of enlarged inlet manifold and cams then?
    Whats with the weird blip at 3400rpm, do these cars run variable valve timing?
     
  14. Gray

    Gray RSM Moderator

    Only people going 500bhp+ have changed the inlet manifold.

    That's where the car rises up on rollers I think, so it plots the 'jump'.
     
  15. Dan

    Dan

    500bhp! Wow..
     
  16. Markblack@MRS

    Markblack@MRS RSM Trader

    300ftlb, am I on borrowed time
     
  17. Dan, clear your in box mate
     
  18. Probably a waste of time with FWD
     
  19. Gray

    Gray RSM Moderator

    LOL, I've been at 320ft.lb for 30K miles now :confused: It must be close to giving up.
     
  20. It probably will If you get rid of that engine.
     
  21. Dan

    Dan

    Done
     
  22. Naith

    Naith RSM Admin

    +1
     
  23. How many miles have you done in yours at that power in the last 12 months naith
     
  24. Daz

    Daz

    There's an echo on here tonight!
     
  25. Naith

    Naith RSM Admin

    Well seen as it's not been used the last year (as you already know) then about 12 miles.

    It ran three years previously stg2 including three fast out blasts to lemans and back and various trackdays fine.
     
  26. Their good engines dan , get it on stage 1 map
     

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