New 250 Cup Owner in Surrey

Will post some filthy photos at the weekend, unfortunately I leave at 07:30 and get home at 18:00 so I don't get a chance to work on it, or take photos!, until the weekend when I then have to juggle this with Dad duties and all the other house stuff.

Thanks re the cooler advice, I will end up going with whatever comes in black!

Blimey, you're going to town! For the time being at least I'm happy with the road Cup suspension, will revisit once I've been on track though no doubt...!

Brands is only 45 mins drive for me and I love the track so just keeping going there, Snetterton isn't too far a drive and a great track but I just prefer Brands more.

We'll have to coincide a day in the summer, I just go to the MSV days as they're really well run.

 

Well good luck with regards the job move.


Will do. I think the damping is spot-on for "fast-road" and therefore will actually be perfect for track where actually you don't want the hardest lowest well cool init suspension. Obviously I haven't taken it out on track yet so will reserve my rights to change my mind in due course.


Thanks for the invite, but evenings are a no at the mo with needing/wanting to help bath/feed/put to bed my two young boys. I will just take a day off work and do a full day with my track-buddy at some point once I've had the work done. Will let you know as soon as I do.

 

Nice to see another C63 owner, there seems to be a few on this forum.....I've got a pre facelift C63 that I used on a few track days. I had a set of wheels with R888R's on which transformed it on the track. I cant use it anymore because it won't pass noise restrictions lol
I'm in Hampshire so I might see you around at some track days

 

I've had it for over a year, it ticks a lot of boxes and I can't get enough of the noise. It's definitely a hooligan.
I've had fitted a Quaife LSD, H&R coilovers, black AMG 19's and remapped. I looked at an FI exhaust but ended up going with a full IPE with headers, sports cats and valve rear section, when I bought the Megane I had the standard Rear section put back on and the resonator welded back in. I hated losing the cold start bark and I wasn't that keen on the sound, now it's perfect but very loud. I started it in the garage one morning when my dad was there and he said it was like a shotgun going off lol


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I haven't got round to getting mine on the rollers but it should be pushing 530-540bhp. I looked at some 507's but it was too much of a stretch for me. A little while ago I met up with four other C63 owners through the MB Club forum and we did a few runs through the hindhead tunnel......it was deafening lol


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Good looking cars guys!! It still makes me chuckle to think they put a 6.2 in a 'small' family four-door!! One of the best sounding cars I have heard on track!

 

I hadn't noticed it myself, but will look for it when I'm next out. I've Bluefinned it though, so this may have irradicated or amplified it though. It's going in for a full belt service and check over soon and will be put on the dyno to check that the fueling etc is ok, it may be that it gets a bespoke map which will override the Bluefin, anyway will let you know re fueling and boost then.

On a side note, I've ordered the same headlights as you, thanks for the links!!

 

Apologies for my shoddy spelling before, hopefully all now corrected.

Well no doubt I'll end up getting a bespoke map as inevitably the guy will find problems with the generic Bluefin Stage 1 (he has already with a Stage 2 he's seen) but he's going to show me all the results and logs so I hopefully will know he's not just trying a fast one.

Other than the full service he's going to fit a Scorpion cat-back exhaust (free-fitting so thought why not!).

I'm tempted with your same Wagner black intercooler but budgeted pennies are a bit short (as I'm likely going for the PFC V3 bell & rotor set-up along with all new pads, rear discs, hoses, fluid etc) therefore one way of saving a little money would be to fit it myself, as you did. Did you have any issues, or things you didn't expect to have to do, were the instructions easy to follow etc. etc. And obviously would you recommend doing it yourself?

Would be good to get this fitted myself before it has a bespoke may you see...

 

Exactly and hence why I do my own decorating!! Let’s see…..


Is it the non-resonated version, i.e. with no centre-box? I was a bit 50/50 about going for a cat-back when I’ve already removed my centre-box on the standard system. But the Scorpion back-box is meant to be much smaller, plus the added diameter versus standard should improve the noise surely!?


It’s free fitting if done at the same time as the service while the car is up on the ramps. Likewise a ‘discount’ on fitting the brake hoses while they do the service and flush the system anyway. Nothing wrong with being naturally negative, my wife is, as I’m too trusting sometimes.


I’ll let you know as soon as I do. They’re 348mm, as opposed the 340mm standard. PFC supply spacers as part of the kit and the standard bolts are apparently plenty long enough.


Great, thanks, may end up giving it a go, sounds like a straightforward, but fiddly job. Rather than one where you have to start drilling and cutting lots of bits that inevitably go wrong. Did you get yours from Ktec?


Wheels and track rubber definitely!! Stop this stilly obsession with the CAE, it will spoil your lovely car. Obviously not an issue if you were stripping it and turning it into a track-monster, but it would look silly popping down to B&Q……


There is an article in this month’s EVO on Ktec’s big power Megane (which they really liked) but interestingly they wrote that they preferred the standard suspension (presumably Cup) over Ktecs uprated suspension. So my point is, upgrade the power, brakes and keep the aesthetics OEM+, but don’t change the suspension or the GEARSTICK!!

 

Hi the lights look good with the black highlights looking to purchase are you happy with the quality they certainly look the business


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Great cheers


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May be you have the resonated (with centre-box) version), regardless, it’s not a huge amount and I may as well take advantage of the free fitting and then I have the cat-back for when/if I ever want to put a sports-cat on.


I'm almost certainly possibly more than likely to get the PFC V3’s; they're only 8mm bigger, so nothing to worry about weight-wise.


A-ha, good idea and presumably cheaper, will take a look on their site. I’ve already contacted Airtec and Forge, am just trying to find out the different volumes and direct-prices. Forge have said they will powder-coat their cooler for me for only £25 extra….!! But is it worth it over the Wagner/Airtec???? I will report back on prices/volumes when ii have everything.


Well hopefully you’ll be broke by the time you’ve bought the wheels 7 tyres and won’t have any left for the silly shifter….!!


As for EVO, it’s the only one I read, unless I pick something else up at an airport, I can’t recall which dampers Ktec had fitted but EVO said they preferred the stock set-up.

 

I’ve just ordered a Wagner intercooler!!!!! It looks a really well made piece of kit and the stepped section increases the volume much more than say the Forge (13.6l vs 11.1l), plus obviously its BLACK! The price is the same as Ktec though, I assumed it would be cheaper therefore I tried to waggle a deal but they sell direct at the same price as their wholesalers but include the postage free as a little incentive.

 

Yes thanks Mark!! I’ve actually sold a watch to pay for all this work. Wagner UK were hopeful that I would get it by the weekend and I have Friday off so may be the stars will align. Good news regarding your 2nd light. Coincidentally I received two e-mails from them this morning to say the money had been taken, so hopefully both mine are on their way.

The car is now booked at Engine Dynamics (a Renaultsport specialist fairly near to me) for the full service & fluids, hose fitting, exhaust and dyno session. All I’ve got to sort now are the brakes and it looks like I have enough pennies in the jar for the PFC V3’s so just waiting to order those…..


Regarding the Wagner, the instructions show two pieces of plastic trim having to be cut, did you do this? Any other bits that needed cutting/drilling etc.??

 

Yes a watch. One that I didn't wear too much so won't miss it too much. I think you've been scratching your spending itch enough lately from the sounds of it, just don't scratch the CAE itch. Thanks Mk2, I saw that in the guide which they sent me before I bought it, doesn't look too much of a problem.

My lights have been posted!!

Just got my quote on the PFC V3's...... wait for it.... £831!!!! (Rrp £925!). Holy fcuk that is a lot of money for a pair of discs. I just can't warrant that, ignorantly I thought they'd be £700. Ktec is selling the V2 kit for £779 therefore presumably may be cheaper elsewhere....

 

It was a black face/black bezel ceramic Submariner. I’m not really into fancy watches, just more functional looking which tend to be diving watches such as Submariners and Seamasters etc.


We’re going to have to agree to disagree on the CAE, each to their own, just think what else the £700 (or whatever it is) could be spent on though……


Thanks, I had heard of them and will give them a look, although there is a company called Reyland that do something similar, they look to use AP Bells and fixing bolts and then presumably their own rotors. Their kit for the MK3 is a 355mm disk! Would just have to check they fit the standard 18’s though first. £595 as opposed £779 for the V2’s or £831 for the V3’s. I’m doing to do the man-maths on my magic-calculator today.

 

This is going to sound very w@nky but literally every guy on my train wears a black Sub, so I’ve stopped wearing it so much and have been enjoying wearing some other watches. At the weekends if I’m just being beaten up by my 27 month old Spartan I just put a Casio G-Shock on, which actually I really like!!


Ha ha, you are not going to stop are you. I said you would end up with another track-only car!! Have you felt the weight of the spare wheel?! Removing that and fitting a lighter battery in the boot would help, but so would no doubt, if like me, losing a few lbs. …and also not adding a few lbs of fancy gear stick!


Yes I remember their Cossie very well from all the mags at the time. Have a look at their site!!


I don’t necessarily want a bigger disc; it’s just that the only one they sell/make for the Mk3 happens to be 355mm. Which if you think about it is only 15m more than standard and 7.5mm on either side which is nothing really. I’ve spoken to them this morning and yes it fits under the standard 18”. I had a very open and frank conversation with a really nice helpful guy there who explained the cost saving over say an AP or PFC rotor (the bell and bolts are still AP) is that the rotor comes from the same foundry as most of the OEM/Brembo etc. discs and that they are not cryogenically treated. He said that Mountune fit their kits to mega-power dedicated track MK2/MK3 Focus’ and have never had any problems. Yes they will be a tad heavier than an AP rotor and hold the heat slightly more due to straight internal vanes rather than curved, but other than that it will still be a lot lighter and retain the heat much less than the standard one-piece Brembo. Me being anal they are possibly going to machine a standard Brembo plain rear disc (with the all-important bearing already pressed in) with the same sided straight grooves to match the front rotors….!!!! I think I have made my mind up!

 

My grandad always told me you can tell the wealth of a man by his watch, because it is usually the last thing they end up buying after the house, car, suits etc. If you buy well you may not actually lose any money, or they may in fact end up being an investment. I get the 07:42 from Ingatestone to Liverpool St!


Ah, so you’re an engineer, which explains all the tinkering. I’m not qualified but have a mechanical head on so not afraid to tinker and usually just end up learning from my inevitable mistakes. I at first also removed the spare wheel and carried a can of foam, but then peer-pressure on here forced me to put it back in because apparently the cans don’t actually pump and seal the tyre satisfactorily. So for the relatively negligible weight just advised to put the wheel and jack back in. We can always take them out track-side. You’ve seen my comments regarding leaving the standard air-box in, but if you fancy a tinker then go for it. I gave up the gym (boxing) and climbing exactly 27 months ago when No.1 was born, I miss feeling “fit” but will get back into it once they’ve left home.....!!


Well, I did have a CL fetish, but from having spoken to an ‘expert’ he recommended to go PFC Z-rated and that’s also what Nick on here has always advised so that’s what I’m doing. Good idea, although what I’ll actually do is just continue to be a few weeks behind you and let you be the guinea-pig. ……..Not including the CAE though!!


So what’s your next project or purchase going to be then?????

 

There’s always something. Let’s talk about HiFi next. The Oris looked nice though and something you could put £800+ to straight away!!


Let’s not make jokes about being frustrated. Job sounds interesting, more so than “insurance”!!!, my wife is an investment banker and lots of her clients are on-line gambling companies. Small world hey.


I’m happy for you to be Maverick, if I can be Viper. Once all this work has been done I think I’ll just be fettling after that. The splitter sounds interesting though, let me know how you get on.


I’m too old for social media!

 

You can’t beat a good pair of headphones, those IE80’s look great, I was bought a pair of B&O in-ear headphones a few years ago and they’re ok, but not fantastic and not what I would expect from the similar price to yours. But because they are a present I can’t really replace them.


Yes you are probably right. The insurance I deal in is called “Energy”, which basically is oil rigs, petrochemical plants, power stations etc., so at least for the next 100 years or so insurance will always be needed for these sometimes USD 20B plants, or USD 2B rigs.


Don’t forget the hard deck for this hop was 10,000 feet….

 

I'm with you on the CAE shifter, very tempting. I also started looking at lithium batteries yesterday but bloody hell are they expensive


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