Speaker Upgrade

Hi, no RCA on the back of the headunit, and you'll need speaker adaptors like you said, but most if not all 13cm speakers should fit.

Definitely put some stick on sound deadening on the door panels when you're fitting the speakers - the aluminium/adhesive type is grand.

 

No worries

I got a lc2i line out converter, which also creates a remote amp turn on signal if the head unit doesn't provide one. I wouldn't bother with a cheaper RCA provider, you can end up with worse audio and other issues.

It runs 2 amps for me, front component amp and one for the sub.

As far as sound deadening, think I bought 10x 50cm² sheets and used about 4-5 of them for the front doors.

 

Some amps will accept speaker level inputs, which could save a bit on then not needing a line level converter.

 

I was going the same route, ended up having to change the headunit, the basic one is so bad that (for me at least) the amp would pick up all the noise and crap from the Renault wiring / crappy unit, as soon as i fitted a Pioneer it went away instantly.

I really didn't wan't to loose the display functionality (i don't have RS monitor), but i don't really notice.

Maybe i overdid it with the amp / speakers and it was to sensitive but i wanted decent sound, Audio specialist had it for 2 days trying to dampen the background noise before changing the head unit, not a single cable runs near other power cables, amp power ran separately from speakers.

My amp in the boot runs front components and the 10" sub (2 channel bridged for sub)

I gained bluetooth but i couldn't even use the inbuilt Renault mic or USB port =/

 

I was thinking of doing the same to my 250 Cup, do they not have any tweeters behind the little dashboard grills?

 

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/spe...t/pioneer-ts-q131c-13cm-custom-fit-components

OP, I guess you have seen these? They fit your brief perfectly. I've had these in a Clio and they were a good, worthwhile upgrade. They're obviously not going to be as good as a new HU and amp, but you get what you pay for. No adapters needed either.

 

Sounds like you have the better unit, it might handle the amp better than my basic one did, but yes you would need the adaptor for the steering controls but everything still works, it does add up in cost as you'll need a fascia for the head unit also (if you go that route). No idea how it would affect your sat nav.

4 x 45w doesn't seem like a lot but it's probably still double what the head unit is putting out and i'm no audio expert.

 

I will be fitting my Megane RS250 cup with the same speakers I fitted in my MK2 225 F1. I have got the following so far:

- Vibe Slick 5C 5.25" Comps (front)
- Vibe Slick 5C 5.25" Comps (rear)
- Vibe Slick A3 4 Channel speaker amp
- Vibe Slick speaker wiring kit
- Vibe Optisound8 Slim active sub
- 10x A4 Silent Coat sound deadening
- 4x Speaker ring mounting adapter
- 4x Speaker wiring adapter
- 2x Hi/Lo to RCA adapter

Will update my progress thread when done!

 

If you're not going for a new headunit I really do recommend something like the lc2i - there are some RCA converters that will reverse engineer a much better signal. If you've got more dough there are things like the jbl cleansweep that go all out on fixing the less than awesome hu signal.

 

Should do, it provides 2 sets of RCA, one of which is designed for a sub output. I mounted it in the passenger underfloor storage. Must get a picture.

 

Good point, must check them and it later.

 

Are these the kind of speakers that could be fitted by someone with no DIY skills?

 

Pretty much, yeah.

The only issue you may have is the old speakers might be riveted in place and hence need drilling out.

 

So not quite plug and play. Not sure that i would fancy taking a drill to my car.

 

It's only for the rivets, which are a fastener like a screw, but one that can't be removed when fitted. You remove the head with a cordless drill - takes about 10 seconds. The mk3 Megane may not even need this; like I say, I fitted these to a Clio 172.

Thinking back - I had to take the whole dash off the Clio to get the tweeters in. Why didn't they make the covers removable?!

 

Yep, speakers riveted in!

 

Ive seen rivets being drilled out on "wheeler dealers" fairly easy i guess. Just woried about cocking it up.

Do the tweeters slot in any easier?

 

Thanks, I doubt very much it's an upgraded system as it's pretty poor. I'm going to have one of the door panels off to replace a check strap so though I would change the speaker over then.

Sorry to hijack the thread but do I need the speaker adaptor rings to fit the Pioneer speakers in the link above? (They look a perfect little upgrade, especially with the wiring adapters)

I'm not sure if I even have speakers in the rear although there are grills??

 

The kenwood amp seems to accept speaker level inputs so will most likely come with a wee adaptor socket that will need spliced into the speaker wiring.... a bit like this:


The amp will then do the level converting.

 

Yes some amps do convert with hi-lo level and good for this situation. I looked the L2Ci but I've bought a Chinese version which are £9 and used before with no interference or quality deductions so bought them again. Not sure wether the backs need Adapters or not so bought. If they are spare il post them up for sale. The reason I didn't want to swap headunit was I wanted to keep standard Bluetooth phone function with screen use. Also I hate single din after markets lol

 

Thanks, presumably they're the same size as the fronts?

On the basis that I don't have separate tweeters and will therefore go for the full-range Pioneers in the link above (rather than having narrower woofers and separate tweeters) will I need the adaptor rings for either the front and/or rears?

 

Not sure about the rear, if adaptor rings are needed.

But I would definitely go with component speakers for the front - the tweeter will lift the sounds up rather than it coming up from the footwell areas. Rest is fine to replace with full range 13cm.

 

I was just thinking it would save you having to cut holes for the tweeters in the panels, I'm assuming there aren't ready-made but empty grills for the rear tweeters.... I've never been in the back of my car

 

No spacers required for the rear but it's not an easy job, seats need to be removed for easier access, i did mine without removing but it was a pig to do.

Also when the rear panels pop out you loose the fasteners so ideally wan't replacement for refitting or you'll have loose panels.

The speakers in the back are mounted on plates which are bolted on, these can be removed fairly easily which means you can drill out the rivets / mount new outside the car.

I did find there were holders for tweeters and even spare speaker cables available