Fast road front brake set up

i've used godspeed various times on my vehicles and the discs are good..
ive always used the grooved ones.. but will be using their hooked rotors next on my race car..
so only after that can i comment on the noise.. but as im using race pads they have been noisy anyway..

 

Plain discs have proven better than grooved ones on track by all accounts on French RS forums with a far greater sample of cars.
For road use, the OE pads should be fine if the rest of the system is fine.
The limiting factor is always front tyre adhesion. Hot pads are only necessary on track for endurance and heat management and to match track tyres.

 

Glazing shouldn't be a problem on the road. Empirical experience has shown the grooved version have proved an issue, at least on track but I don't know why. The classic cheese grater effect maybe.
You symptoms are very strange but would indicate glazed discs. You may want to try and clean them up, a full bedding in process again may help if you have a quiet dual carriageway near you, worth a try.

 

Ah OK, fair enough. I run OE plain discs and PFC Z-rated pads on Motul 600 fluid. Very happy on road and track.

 

100% correct and a point missed by most people.

However, having said that, both Meganes I've had haven't been able to generate enough braking force to overcome the front tyre grip (in optimum conditions). This is with standard, new OEM setups. The brakes on the Megane aren't up to the standard of the rest of the car, and I consider them the worst part of the whole package.

The 172 I had would easily overcome the front grip, whilst lifting you off the seat and straining against the belt, such was the dry grip and the braking force.

OP - I've had the setup you mention on a Clio (M1144 & HC discs), and for the price would definitely recommend it as a improvement over the standard setup.

 

I just got these ready to fit - won't be used on track but fancied the g hooks so I got them to machine the hooks into a set of plain rears too
Look great and should improve braking a lot! I'm going for ds2500 but only as had lots of squeal from 1144's on my old 182

 

For fast road, standard discs (grooved or not, irrelevant) and updated pads

For track, I'm yet to find something where the pedal doesn't go soft. It's a cooling issue I think

 

And a weight issue too I guess ! A bit like me after Xmas.

 

im using Carbon lorraine RC6 pads, godspeed discs and CL race brake fluid and never had pedal go during any races or testing
fluid is big factor.. hence why i went to the expensive stuff, the castrol SRF is good too..

 

Yeah good call - I'm half tempted to do the same - discs cost enough!
Just nervous of squeal - only lasted 2 weeks on my Clio before I bough a normal set of brembo pads

 

yeah I've got M1144 on mine and I get a fair bit of squeal at low speeds and it's doing my head in.

What to do?! Don't like the sound of £30 OEM's and going to a lesser pad (or are they alright?)

And don't want anything track orientated that needs a lot of heat and kicks out a load of dust

 

All you need to do is give them a good hard press now and again, but make sure there isn't anything behind you.
I am running CL6's and very rarely get a peep out of them.

 

To get rid of the screech? Tried it a couple of times, guess I'm not pressing hard enough!
What is it that screeches? I've got some 2nd hand brembos that I'm going to clean up and put new seals in over Christmas. Easy for a DIY'er to chop over on the drive and swap pads over/check pads?

 

I do the exact same to my RC6's to get rid of the squeal, never really hear from them

 

I think it just a glaze build up on the disc's, i use my brakes quite hard most of the time
If you do decide to have a go at doing a refurb, make sure everything is clean before you start putting it back together, give yourself plenty of space as well, when you start putting things back together, coat everything in new brake fluid, if you are going this far then changing the flexies and the brake fluid, good brake fluid that is.
Pads are easy to do as long as you can get the pins out.

 

Only had the lines changed over to goodridge a couple of months ago. It'll need a re bleed then?

had Mr Pinks pins put in while he did the poly bushes too so pads should at least be easy?

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what fluid did you or they put in, really is worth putting in some "racing/performance" fluid, as you now have stainless hoses you can't clamp them, so you will have to be quick swapping them over, when you do swap them, leave the bleed valves open and make sure the fluid is kept topped up, when fluid comes out of the bleed valves and no air bubbles then close the valves, should only then need rechecking just before fitting the wheels.

 

Mark Black did it. I keep forgetting to ask but think he used ate typ 200. Cheers will have a butchers then. Doesn't look particularly tricky as long as I get away with bleeding!

 

If you follow what i said to do with the bleed valves you should manage it okay, just recheck for air before putting the wheels on.

 

Ali and steel don't mix - they always seize

 

Just got my kit in post and the bellends didnt send me the nipples.
Might just give it the garage! Needs discs and pads anyway

 

You wanna try performance friction discs with xp8 pads they won't overhear.

 

Overkill for a road car tho. Too much £. But yeah I rate performance friction pads, had em on my e36.
Gonna go m1144 and brembo hc discs

 

Big fan of the M1144 pads for fast road use. Had them on my R26 for about 10 months now, shame I don't use the car more but they are lasting well. As others have said the squeal comes from light braking too often, having said that they bite hard very quickly so a shove on the pedal is like chucking the anchor out. Motul RBF 660 fluid for me.

 

[QUOTE="-Jamie-, post: 142480, member: 45"I've never had any issues since going to a better fluid[/QUOTE]

Motul RBF 660 is what i'm using

 

Short and hard works well for me. Ah ah.

 

ooer..well I say!

 

I'm using the exact same set up, works perfect, great for road and track.

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The problem with the harder pads, like the carbons is that they eat discs and they're noisy most of the time.
Mind you, my latest set of 1114's are squealing on the offside at very low speeds.

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