Need some things explaining for Nurburgring ???

With regards to how much fuel you will use will be down to how heavy your right foot is? ( a vague figure for fuel is £250/£300). Just be aware that no matter how fast you think you are on there, there will always be someone quicker! Also use your mirrors , as the Porsche boys dont tend to slow down for much. Enjoy it, also try & blag a lap off someone in something decent who looks like they know what there doing.

 

Hi bud, im literally leaving for my first nurburgring trip in a matter of hours.

As for insurance I have added on European cover for the road driving and then I used Moris track insurance to cover me on the Nordschleife, cost me £230 for the weekend in insurance.

Regarding your car, you pretty much covered it all, fresh fluid & pads (although I don't think its that hard on brakes), decent condition and quality tyres

Im allowing £300 for fuel and im located in Oxford

I can tell you more next week when im back

 

my last trip I did about £600 that's inc fuel, food and accommodation. I did 3/4 tank from my house to nurburgring then did 6 laps and 2 sessions of gp track

 

The ring is approx 350 miles from Calais so I allow a tank each way plus how many laps you get in. Don't buy 9 straight away I know it's cheaper but if the are accidents and there will be, they close the ring until the mess is cleared up ,I've been there when it was closed at 10am and not opened for the rest of the day leaving you trying to get the rest of your laps in .Safe bet is to buy 4 at a time . Insurance , well just don't crash !not so much the barrier cost which I know can add up its the 3rd party damage ie to other drivers . I know a guy who has cost of £50k to cover a very bad accident where his car dropped fluid causing 3 German drivers to crash , one was quit seriously injured , Make sure you have a travel insurance .. Otherwise enjoy it its a very special place . No timing your self as can be dangerous . You will be trying to push to beat your best lap , not good !!. Done over 80 laps and not timed one of them as I'm not interested. Don't go out in the wet , it's like an ice ring Zero grip !

 

Yes I dare say most British drivers are in that situation on a tourist day .

 

You wont mind if you bin it into the Armco and get a 20k though eh!

 

Insurance is complicated but make no mistake - YOU ARE NOT INSURED ON THE NURBURGRING FOR TF (Touristenfarhten) sessions

Here's the legal situation:

1. Every insurer will have a clause saying no race track, private road, or mention the Nurburgring specifically as an exclusion in their policy. Thus, you're not insured.

2. Legally, insurance companies are bound by EU law to cover third party costs - so if you have a crash into someone else, or drop fluid and cause lots of people to crash, the insurance company MUST pay out....

BUT, because you are not insured (due to exclusion), they will pursue you personally for damages

This means your house, car, cash, everything - gone.

3. There used to be private brokers that would liaise with underwriters direct and cover you specifically. You often got a cover letter from them before you went, and said what days you were on the ring.

After a lot of high profile and expensive crashes, the underwriters withdrew this.


Unless it's changed in the past few years, i don't know of anyone providing TF cover.


You will also be liable for Armco / recovery vehicle etc damages if you bin it into the side or cause track closures or need a tow or .... or anything, basically


You've been warned.... if your trip is uneventful, you'll be fine. If you have a fluid spillage and end up causing some very expensive vehicles to crash and/or injure people, then you may well have your life come crashing down. This has happened to people - check out Driftworks' owners story online

the ring isn't tough on brakes or tyres - but avoid the curbs. Most you can't ride, so unless you know the track, just avoid them all. Check your car before you go out - if you go into the karussel, for example, you may end up with some trim getting ripped or something. I used to destroy mud flaps round there on my old R26R

I'd suggest you look up on youtube for the lines, else you'll spend most of your time looking in your rear view mirror and keeping right with your indicator on. Not the best of experiences round the lap

if your main concern is fuel costs, then i'd suggest you cancel the trip and go as a passenger But seriously, it's not a 'cheap' thing to do... and becomes a life changer if you stack it.


Make sure you don't speed through Europe because the police are very hot on that now, and make sure you have all the EU necessities - the right number plate and/or an EU sticker, a high vis vest etc etc

Breakdown would be an idea

 

i know this seems mental, but UK cars cannot obtain valid insurance for the Nurburgring TF sessions

It literally doesn't matter how much money you have, you can't get it

I would assume that some people still have cover from brokers they have known a long time, and if anyone knows differently and some brokers/underwriters are accepting new policies then please correct me

but.... No, you can't get valid insurance

some people register their cars in Germany and put them through the TuV, and have a German address so it's basically a German car and is covered


so all you can do is go, and hope you don't crash. The issue is not you taking it easy - the issue is things like coming round a blind bend (there are lots) and running over a biker. Or being approached at speed, being in the way, trying to move off-line but then losing it because you aren't familiar with the track

Obviously, loads of people go anyway and most return fine. Personally, I don't like the risk so I pay to do private track days and then get track day insurance for my car (because third party doesn't matter on a track day, you sign a disclaimer). This won't cover armco charges though

 

OP, follow Neils advice religiously. Also, remember a TF day is not a track day : German highway code apply (it says so on the barrier) so stick to right to let people pass or be prepared for a third party spanking even if you think you've done nothing wrong. I strongly suggest a Swift Sport from Rent4Ring as the cheapest way of getting 3rs party cover. You'll enjoy your day more that way and will be surprised how quick the car is on a first trip where you'll scare yourself at 7/10ths anyway. Wait until you can join a group who know the place though... and understand the implications of a lack of third party cover...

 

I could not agree more with comments above, don't be put off going it's an amazing place , just drive like your on a public road, let faster cars through and enjoy it . If can get out with someone first before you go out it does help ! Give you some idea where to go . It's not the left & rights but the uderlations that surprise drivers the most . I'm getting excited out the for 2-5 June . Not long know

 

It is a public road on TF, and that's the problem...