H&r’s drop by 25mm front and back think there’s 2 variants to them though. The one’s to go for are model no. 28997-2 Maybe a very slight firmer ride, negligible if any handling difference on an A / B road in my opinion cooksports are the other ones and looking at pictures look like they lower a bit more .. but mixed reviews from what i’ve read on the forum you either love them or hate them