powerflex

Oh dear. You got any pictures of them? I've never seen any so not sure what your options are or how they work? Are they in some way calibrated so you don't need to set the geometry with laser or similar? Wrong part of the country or I'd take a look for you.
How far away are you from Mark Fish?

 

As above mate. Give Mark a call.

 

Usual powerflex quality then, I fitted there kit to my 182 trophy.

The metal sleeves that you weld into place didn't fit so required modification before welding.

Then due to the material of the bushes I found they just ate themselves and fell to bits!

Never again will I fit there crap!

 

wow is that true dan cos cazanracing and others on here swear by em, I was going to buy set for the engine n gbox, so you think there crap then??

 

Im speaking from my personal experience, the dog bone mounts were ok on the clios I couldn't fault them but the wishbone bushes were diabolical. The fitment was poor and the material just chewed itself to bits and I wasn't the only one to say that.

I know they did change the design some what but from what I read they weren't much better. I even spoke to Fred at Btm about the issue and even he said he thought they weren't up to much!

 

cheers dan I appreciate the comments, can I ask what engine n gbox bushes you recommend mate , as I fancy changing all 3

 

On the clios I ran powerflex lower dogbone which like I said seem to bear up ok then vibratechnic uppers.

I have a new set of genuines on the Meg and tbh I'm happy with them, I may get a lower stabiliser mount but that'll be it as I found uprated mounts an overkill on the clios and they just apply stress to other areas.

 

I have been considering buying the camber and castor bushes.

Would you mind taking some pics please so we can see how they fit and adjust (or not as it sounds like)?

I've run the Powerflex dogbone mount on my Clio 172 without issues.

 

Like I said tim, no issues with the dogbone bushes but the wishbone bushes were wank!

If you want adjustable camber just get top mounts, a lot less fucking about

 

cheers mate

 

You shouldn't have to cut anything, another shite mod that everyone has jumped into getting done, stick to standard, most don't even know and understand what they do, more than likely make the car worse , waste of money.

 

They will make the toe go out massively too as they have a pivot point on the rear bush.

 

There quality control is awful! Full alignment will be needed after as MJ has already said and seeing as it can't be adjusted easily....... Have fun!

R26 and r26r bushes are stiffer then the 225 stuff anyway I've got a set of both arms and bushes are different in stiffness and appearance

 

Increasing the the camber will make the car use the most of its tyres on the track. It's worth while rather than spending 300+ on top mounts or 700+ on suspension.

 

Well up to now for Martin at least their shite, for the price of them they should not need to be butchered to make them fit then all the hassle he's now got to encounter inc the extra added cost to get things put right, so after all the hassle how much camber will he get, next to nothing at all, only real way is with an adjustable top mount, ask him if he's happy with them.
Thats why I say better left alone.

 

top mounts will get camber that's worth having,

 

That's straight from the horses mouth, if that's not convincing enough get ya money out and buy a shite load of STRESS

 

Shouldn't you get rid of the AST's Steve as they didn't fit!

 

Out of interest what mounts did you have on the clio? I had no problems with multiple dog bone mounts as I stressed but the wishbone bushes were wank! Collars were welded as instructed and within 12 months and 15k miles the wishbone bushes had eaten themselves!

Track car or drive way queen they'd no doubt last longer but 9/10 drivers won't be able to tell the difference between new OEM Renault bushes and this tripe, big placebo!

Thing is if your going to the extent of custom geo setups for track and chasing lap times stretching to a set of coilovers and top mounts is worth is?

That way you'll benefit from ease of adjustment because after all were all race drivers on here and can tell the difference between 10 minutes of camber and we won't be happy with the first set up, where in reality a lot of drivers in here won't know if there running 2 degrees neg or 3.

Says a lot when a focused hatch like the r26 and r26r has nearly a degree in tolerance from factory in front camber angles and as standard most people, automobile journalists and tv presents are happy with them

 

Nope not at all , they fit perfectly, Curtis sent the wrong bracket which I expected nothing less from AST, rather than wait we corrected it at no cost.

 

I would sack Curtis, he's a useless prick lol. Only on Thursday I was speaking to another Meg owner at RS tuning who'd had to deal direct with ast Holland! Shame really as there a good product!

Regards wishbone bushes I turned my own on the lathe that replicated the cup racer setup using nylon

 

Martin, you should know you can't make the "Ultimate R" any better than it already is

 

was you trying to adjust the bush with the weight of the car on the arm

 

I didn't have any problems with the wishbone bushes on the Clio, ran them for a good few years, only issues I heard of with them was when people didn't tack weld the sleeves in, although I'm not sure if I had the revised ones or not

 

Like I said mine were tack welded by Fred at Btm whilst I was at the dvla swapping swapping regs purely to makesure I had no issues, I think what happened when they weren't welded was the sleeves used to run away at subframe

 

I'm very surprise at what I've just read. I had the full kit on my 172 and they lasted about 3years. They didn't degrade and the feeling they provided was excellent.

When I saw the kits come available for the Megane I was very tempted. I wouldn't of got the camber adjustable kit, but I would of had the other kits.

Ill have to look more in to this before I take the plunge.

 

Did you fit the castor lower arm bush?

 

Me too andy, was going to put an order in to angel but I think I will sourse elsewhere now or just go o/e